Qatar 2022

Do you think it will actually happen there? Do you think they will change it to the winter, given the insane weather?

It seems sponsors are starting to break ranks and diplomatically voice concerns, I've seen Sony and Adidas do it so far. If enough of them start to baulk then maybe it will hit FIFA in the only way they recognise.... £££.

I think most people would be hard pressed to say brown envelopes weren't involved in the decision to give it to Qatar. (Saying that, Blatter's ego is such that he probably genuinely wants it there) It was so ludicrously blatant that maybe FIFA thought it would look almost too ridiculous to be corrupt.

Have even they over reached themselves awarding it to Qatar? Will they now row back and see if they can pin it on that Bin Hammam? Maybe even UEFA could kick up a fuss; Platini isn't too happy with Blatter over him not being dead seeking re-election so he might not have too much support amongst the traditional heavyweights. *Actually, he probably would cough PSG cough*

It is looking more and more like something will give though. Presumably any re vote for 2022 would involve the same nations (ie not England). If the first bid is anything to go by, USA would win it comfortably.

Anyone remember which poster on here accused anyone who though the voting was rigged of being bitter?

Anyway, yeah, it obviously shouldn't be held there. The human rights record alone should see it hosted in the USA.

Best take it away and re vote for it.

USA/Australia would be good bets to win I think.

I'm not so sure a World Cup "should" be held anywhere, but to my eyes Australia ticked all the boxes for 2022. Also worth noting that Qatar's interest actually came along quite late in the bidding process..make of that what you will.

I would still be amazed if the bid for 2022 is re-run though. We will be giving the old "no compelling evidence" line. Blatter might be an utter arse, but he isn't going to shot on his own doorstep...(puns intended all over the shop).

Aren't they going to make the Euros spread across Europe?

Don't think it'd work for the world cup though, unless you say eg, 2018 Europe, 2022 Africa etc

What needs to happen is FIFA being investigated by the relevant International criminal enforcement authorities and the guilty parties rounded up and jailed - as would happen if any regular guy took bribes and committed fraud. There's a danger here of equating the act of these criminals rowing back their decision with justice, like when a bankster is caught fixing the interest rates and pays 2% of the stolen total back as a fine. The crooks at FIFA may well have their grubby minds forcibly changed now their rock has been lifted, but what will that mean if there's no justice served? They will get their next series of bungs from elsewhere. The fact FIFA is corrupt is open knowledge, there's a mountain of evidence. These bastards can't be allowed to continue influencing a global sport to their own benefit.

Apparently Qatar signed away the right to take legal action against FIFA as part of their bid. So I guess there's every chance FIFA could have a re-vote knowing they won't be opposed.

The whole thing is bent as fuck, a country like Qatar has no business hosting a World Cup.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Apparently Qatar signed away the right to take legal action against FIFA as part of their bid. So I guess there's every chance FIFA could have a re-vote knowing they won't be opposed.

The whole thing is bent as fuck, a country like Qatar has no business hosting a World Cup.

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Wow :haha:

What a farce. Why would any legitimate bidder retract their right to take legal action :wacko:

Blatter says the allegations of corruption against Qatar are down to racism :haha:

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Originally Posted by Munchies

Best take it away and re vote for it.

USA/Australia would be good bets to win I think.

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Travel too much little bit if they joint host shirley :blink:

World Cup all day. :bow:

Would like to see Australia get it, wonder if they would use the MCG.

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World Cup all day. :bow:

Would like to see Australia get it, wonder if they would use the MCG.

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Just looked it up, 100,000 capacity for a cricket ground.

Woah.. :wacko:

I've been there. It is a truly magnificent stadium.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlJEt...layer_embedded

Bunch of fucking cunts FIFA.

Great summary vid this which has got over 3 mill views already :coffee:

LOL - FIFA are suddenly worried about fraud. Either that or somebody said something to piss them off.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/wor...-bid-team.html

A FIFA 'taskforce' recommends that the 2022 World Cup should take place in November and December. :sarcy:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31600194

Probably preferable than all the players dying from heat exhaustion, but not quite sure how all the European leagues are going to schedule around it.

:doh:

Even though it's years away you can already see this World Cup is going to be played amongst huge disdain.

I guess the European Leagues will need to be extended to June, maybe even July.

I pray that the big four leagues, i.e. the PL, the Bundesliga, La Liga and Seria A unite on this issue and basically tell FIFA to get fucked and that they're not going to reschedule their leagues.

Because we would in all likelihood see the end of this ridiculous Qatar 2022 idea as with the money involved in domestic leagues these days, the top players would stay away. It may even result in some meaningful changes at FIFA though I'd just be happy with Qatar being scrapped at this stage.

But this assumes that these groups can act competently which is a stretch.

December 23rd is the rumoured final date. :lol:

What a fiasco.
FIFA are such twats.

The whole thing is a farce.

The FAs need to band together and boycott the thing.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...4720715792.jpg

This is what corruption looks like. These cunts are laughing at all of football.

It's time fans stopped talking about what can't be done and what can't be changed and started doing something to change things. There are about, what, 20 posters on GW? 20 clubs in the PL. That's one GW poster per club, find the 20 top fan forums and start unifying the fans against this.

I could be done if we have the will to do it.

Letters, Maccy, make it happen. I'm in and I don't even mind being assigned the spud forum.

Even the stadiums are going to be giant turds.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...4771861566.jpg

It's almost as if the tournament should just be staged somewhere else...

Gone beyond that now though, hasn't it? If this extreme degree of shameless corruption isn't enough to bring the football world together to kick these wankers out then nothing will do it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31610300

There are just no words.

Christmas with Sepp. I can't think of anything better.

This is going to have quite a huge impact on how they structure the season before; basically, how the hell do they do it?

December 23rd has been confirmed as the proposed final date. A Friday. :lol:

Last day of work and a World Cup final. Sounds good tbf.

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Letters, Maccy, make it happen. I'm in and I don't even mind being assigned the spud forum.

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Someone will have to, I got banned from Glory Glory :lol:

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Someone will have to, I got banned from Glory Glory :lol:

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They didn't even approve my registration.

Might have taken issue with the username DieYidCuntsDie :shrug:

Did you explain it's German?

No one who speaks German could be an evil man.

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They didn't even approve my registration.

Might have taken issue with the username DieYidCuntsDie :shrug:

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Great info. That's why I love GW. I was going to register with that username but now I'll use something else.

One the one hand it was an awful idea to have the World Cup in Quatar, on the other hand there's 7 years to go which is plenty to prepare for a World Cup in winter. Saw that if English clubs kick up a fuss FIFA might apply to UEFA to ban English clubs from Europe.

I don't mind a World Cup then, would prefer final to be the 18th December rather than 23rd though (both a possibility) as the 23rd is too close to Xmas, think that the big boys think they run football though (the big clubs) so to put them back in their place might not be a bad thing.

So it's better to have an overtly corrupt world governing body taking backhanders from nasty, human rights abusing, terrorism supporting, oil states that have no association whatsoever with football? Is that really the best way to teach the big boys a lesson? What sort of lesson? Corruption pays? Handsomely?

Whether it's hosted in Qatar or on the Moon is a secondary issue. The fact FIFA (and UEFA) is so rotten, so riddled with corruption and so willing to flaunt it is the key concern. If we want sporting principals to prevail in our own leagues then systematically rooting out corruption in the game should be a priority, starting at the top.

I just don't get why 7 billion people are prepared to sit around and be dictated to and robbed by a handful of unimaginably greedy and immoral bastards. Every single leader we have, not just in sport but in all walks, is a bad leader at best and a criminal in the main. When are the rest of us going to do something about that?

Getting dragged into schedules and player availability and bullshit like that misses the point. It bypasses the important questions that even a child should be able to figure out. For instance, why is the summer/ winter thing an issue at all? If Qatar bid for a summer tournament and it was an unsuitable venue for that tournament due to the temperature then why did it get selected as the host. Let's step back to that point and deal with it. No point running off down the track and arguing over the symptoms when the cause should be the primary focus.

Fans could do something about this. They won't.

Most of them will just accept it and as more and more corruption takes root they'll accept that too. You may not mind the Christmas treat but to accept it you must also accept the corruption. Do you?

It's not about one thing being better than another, Qatar has been chosen whether we like it or not and the ordinary fan has never had a say as to where a World Cup should be, I agree Qatar is a terrible choice but what's done is done and now you have to make the best of it and having the World Cup clashing with the winter Olympics certainly doesn't work, that leaves having it late in the year. It should be easy enough for most leagues as they can just shift their winter break. more difficult for the PL perhaps but I've got little sympathy, they don't do anything in the interest of football either they generally do things because of money.

It's a one off and in 7 years time, it's hardly the end of the world.

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It's not about one thing being better than another, Qatar has been chosen whether we like it or not and the ordinary fan has never had a say as to where a World Cup should be, I agree Qatar is a terrible choice but what's done is done and now you have to make the best of it and having the World Cup clashing with the winter Olympics certainly doesn't work, that leaves having it late in the year. It should be easy enough for most leagues as they can just shift their winter break. more difficult for the PL perhaps but I've got little sympathy, they don't do anything in the interest of football either they generally do things because of money.

It's a one off and in 7 years time, it's hardly the end of the world.

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You completely miss the point. And it's a small part of the end of the world. Add up all the corruption across all aspects of society and it does indeed add up to the end of the world. It can't lead anywhere else.

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FIFA president Sepp Blatter promised that the Qatar World Cup in 2022 will not ruin Christmas for football fans.

Blatter, arriving in Belfast for the rules-deciding IFAB summit, insisted that the World Cup final will not be played on December 23 as a FIFA workshop floated in Qatar this week when agreeing on a November-December World Cup schedule.

Instead Blatter said that FIFA would recommend that the 28-day tournament would finish no later than December 18, which would potentially allow the Premier League to resume on Boxing Day.

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Blatter to the rescue. A victory for football. This is like a rapist generously promising he'll cum on your tits. No thanks necessary.

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This is like a rapist generously promising he'll cum on your tits.

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:haha:

As the late Brian Clough once wisely said

"I hope they all get bloody diarrhea"