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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    No,.we knew there were accusations, no more or less, if you made assumptions on the likelihood of them being true, so be it, but that's not the same as 'knowing', it's applying your own bias to decide they're probably true
    Bias has nothing to do with it, it’s applying probability. Saying that because there are multiple accusers make it more likely that he is guilty than that there is a malicious campaign against him isn’t controversial.

    You understand there’s a difference between assessing guilt from a legal standpoint and forming a view on culpability based on likelihood. Or maybe you don’t?

    It’s not unreasonable to conclude that it’s more likely that he’s a rapist than not. That doesn’t amount to a certainty, but it’s like seeing overcast skies and saying it’s likely it will rain

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wengerbabies View Post
    Did we though?

    It wouldn't be the first time women have used rape accusations for nefarious purpose.
    I’m not sure I’m aware of any outright false allegations against footballers, if you think an acquittal means the allegation is false it shows you understand the law about as well as you understand most things

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    Well, there's also a lot of kickback on there (not from me, I just read it) saying the club's done nothing wrong, innocent until proven guilty etc, so 'lol' yourself

    Just because there's not as much hate on there (though human nature being what it is, i suspect it's only a matter of time) doesn't mean it's one-sided
    My facile understanding of Bluesky is where all the screaming lefties and liberals went after Musk bought Twitter

    So essentially you have two places, one that is an echo chamber of wokeness and one that is an echo chamber of right wing to far right nonsense (outright racism, conspiracy theory and soft support for authoritarianism over democracy)

    Twitter is pretty revolting at times, I just imagine bluesky matches it but in shrillness and piety replacing hatred of people with different colour skin, women and a neo trad Christianity

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    My facile understanding of Bluesky is where all the screaming lefties and liberals went after Musk bought Twitter

    So essentially you have two places, one that is an echo chamber of wokeness and one that is an echo chamber of right wing to far right nonsense (outright racism, conspiracy theory and soft support for authoritarianism over democracy)

    Twitter is pretty revolting at times, I just imagine bluesky matches it but in shrillness and piety replacing hatred of people with different colour skin, women and a neo trad Christianity
    first of all one big difference is there's not the angry language and insults, so it's more civilised (though that doesn't mean people don't get a bit sarcy or testy at times)

    obvs what you see will be dictated by who you follow - I'm mainly only following Arsenal people - i admit most of the bloggers/pod people are fairly right-on but as i said the ones who have said the club shouldn't have played Partey have had a degree of kickback from those who see it the same way as I do (that the club should have continued to play him but not offered him a contract extension)

    elsewhere i'm sure a lot of the political stuff is centre-left and if you want 'woke' - although for me 90% of what's classified as 'woke' actually just means 'considerate' - the other 10% is mainly where some people have taken what equality etc means a bit too far - e.g. on trans

    but as i say the main thing is there's a distinct lack of nastiness, so it's a fairly benign space IMO and acts an info point without all the crap

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