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    I’d say I currently want the CL more than a league title, simply because we’ve never done it before and it would get a huge and quite frankly embarrassing monkey off our back.

    After that though, I’d value league titles above the CL.

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    Winning the CL would be great and nice, and maybe something to scratch off the bucket list but it's not what we grew up being accustomed to as Arsenal fans.

    Look at Liverpool fans when they went on their ridiculous drought and were brought down to earth by SAF, despite Rafa being incredibly successful initially and bringing CL back to them, everyone could see through the hollow celebrations and the fact that they wanted the league trophy more than anything, and the United supporters and SAF kept reminding them of this fact.

    10 years ago if I was offered the CL or the league, obviously I would have grabbed the CL, but after a while the heart starts cherishing what it use to, new experiences are nice but fucking hell I miss the old days of being league champions and everyone in the country knowing it.

    I watched highlights of Chelsea's last friendly, and at Stamford bridge they introduced themselves as world champions ....I mean I honestly found that laughable as I could tell from the fake cheers that no one believed they were the best team in the world or deserved the title when they couldn't even be described as the best team at home, let alone in Europe.

    I badly want that justifiable feeling of calling ourselves the best in the land, and definitely in London again. I'm not even asking us to defend it, something none of us are use to, just fucking go back to the status quo and let one hold their head up high again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    I’m not saying we couldn’t have done better but do you not think that’s partly attributable to the financial doping that’s been going on in football in the last twenty years. Wenger wasn’t the best tactician but I’m fairly confident without that he had another league title or two in him.

    Don’t get me wrong I really want a league title, and I do think we’ve gone too long without one. But just not to the point where if we won the European cup but not the league I’d consider it a sackable offence. With that kind of mentality, no coach would want to come here
    It's worked for Chelsea in the past - not that they should be held up as some point of reference, but you get what I mean.
    Top managers would still want to come here, but maybe we need some kind of ruthlessness so that Managers don't think they can come here and coast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I’d say I currently want the CL more than a league title, simply because we’ve never done it before and it would get a huge and quite frankly embarrassing monkey off our back.

    After that though, I’d value league titles above the CL.
    I want both tbh.

    When will it be our time when one big trophy isn't enough and the players give their all to win both of them

    However, I have always said Prem over CL. Prem is our 'bread & butter' and that should be getting conquered first and foremost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KSE Comedy Club View Post
    It's worked for Chelsea in the past - not that they should be held up as some point of reference, but you get what I mean.
    Top managers would still want to come here, but maybe we need some kind of ruthlessness so that Managers don't think they can come here and coast.
    Except even Chelsea have never sacked a coach directly after winning the European cup

    With De Matteo it was six months after and with Tuchel it was over a year later

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    Quote Originally Posted by KSE Comedy Club View Post
    I want both tbh.

    When will it be our time when one big trophy isn't enough and the players give their all to win both of them

    However, I have always said Prem over CL. Prem is our 'bread & butter' and that should be getting conquered first and foremost.
    There isn’t a club in England for which one of the two prizes isn’t good enough (and that includes City)

    You want both? Well yeah of course we all do. But as I said above I don’t think a time will come where we will win either
    The league or the European cup and that being deemed insufficient

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    3-0 Sesko hatter

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    I hope we win, tbh.

    I don't think we will though. We are better than Utd but we always seem to struggle there for some reason.
    We didn't even beat them last season when they were the shittest they've been for decades.

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    It’s a strange one, understandable when they were at the top, but our record against them at Old Trafford has always been pretty underwhelming.

    Then again when Liverpool were dominating in the 80s they could barely beat United home or away

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