Have we learnt anything from the ManYoo game?

[Letters]

I don't think so.

There was the predictable hand-wringing and wailing in the match thread as there always is even though before the game we were pretty much unanimous in thinking this was a nailed on certainty for a defeat.

Having been on this board some time I guess I shouldn't be surprised by such reactions but I think we all accept (although are not happy that) we're not serious competitors to the top 3 any more.

So...did we learn anything new from the game and result?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

We have not learnt anything we don't already know. The result was good and bad i thought, Bad in the sense that its always bad to loose to them. Good in away, that it was not a humilation like last time.

The scoreline flattered us, but it is what it is. Whether it could have been 5-1, 6-1 etc, its irrelevant.

[Bergkampwonderland10]

I don't think so.

There was the predictable hand-wringing and wailing in the match thread as there always is even though before the game we were pretty much unanimous in thinking this was a nailed on certainty for a defeat.


Having been on this board some time I guess I shouldn't be surprised by such reactions but I think we all accept (although are not happy that) we're not serious competitors to the top 3 any more.

So...did we learn anything new from the game and result?

I learnt a few things, though maybe it's not all 'new'.
1) Santos is possibly the worst left back we've ever had
2) Santos asking for Van Persie's shirt pretty much showed how our team think.
3) Wenger hugging Van Persie at half time - showed he's only interested in personal achievements...ie, look at what a great manager I am at making a world class player and then selling him.
4) Vermaelen and Koscielny have both decided to turn into jelly at the same time
5) Mertesacker is a beast for us which I never expected to be fair -even though I always rated him, wasn't sure he'd cope with he prem pace, but has proved me wrong so far- best reader of the game
6) There was no point in buying a CF like Giroud if no one gives him anything to go on
7) There is no point in going back to tippy tappy football ala Fabregas - going no where fast - it's just so boring now
8) I preferred watching Swansea yesterday - thought their brand of football is 100x better than ours right now.
9) Unless something drastic happens soon - I think Wenger needs to consider his future...particularly if we fail to hold on to Walcott
10) Gazidis needs to get a new job - maybe in property - oh wait, that's what he spends his time doing anyways...sells highbury square flats.
11) I am less angry at Van Persie after yesterday - not because he didn't celebrate, but when Santos asked for his shirt - it really did show the direction of our club - and he was spot on.

[Özim]

Some people have re-learnt that we can't defend (they'd forgotten for about 3 games).

I learnt that some people will never learn.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I learnt a few things, though maybe it's not all 'new'.
1) Santos is possibly the worst left back we've ever had
2) Santos asking for Van Persie's shirt pretty much showed how our team think.
3) Wenger hugging Van Persie at half time - showed he's only interested in personal achievements...ie, look at what a great manager I am at making a world class player and then selling him.
4) Vermaelen and Koscielny have both decided to turn into jelly at the same time
5) Mertesacker is a beast for us which I never expected to be fair -even though I always rated him, wasn't sure he'd cope with he prem pace, but has proved me wrong so far- best reader of the game
6) There was no point in buying a CF like Giroud if no one gives him anything to go on
7) There is no point in going back to tippy tappy football ala Fabregas - going no where fast - it's just so boring now
8) I preferred watching Swansea yesterday - thought their brand of football is 100x better than ours right now.
9) Unless something drastic happens soon - I think Wenger needs to consider his future...particularly if we fail to hold on to Walcott
10) Gazidis needs to get a new job - maybe in property - oh wait, that's what he spends his time doing anyways...sells highbury square flats.
11) I am less angry at Van Persie after yesterday - not because he didn't celebrate, but when Santos asked for his shirt - it really did show the direction of our club - and he was spot on.

That Santo's think was weird he could of waited till after the game. Maybe he wanted to wipe his ass, at HT.

[Özim]

He did it at half time to draw attention to it.

Now people will know he's got the real legend RVP's shirt in 10 years time as this will go down in football folklore and thus it will be worth an absolute packet!

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Mertesacker is a beast for us which I never expected to be fair -even though I always rated him, wasn't sure he'd cope with he prem pace, but has proved me wrong so far- best reader of the game

Pretty much, he is awesome. Sagna was a beast too. Showed why he is the best RB in the world.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

He did it at half time to draw attention to it.

Now people will know he's got the real legend RVP's shirt in 10 years time as this will go down in football folklore and thus it will be worth an absolute packet!

Only exctiting thing he has done all season, well except crashing his car.

[Syn]

Nothing new on the football side, but it was interesting seeing all out players hugging and shaking hands in the tunnel with Van Persie (Arteta, Wilshere and Vermaelen - the captain candidates - being the worst of the bunch). It wasn't on sky but there was a vid posted on YouTube from someone in the tunnel. It shows how out of touch the players are with the fans. I don't even hate Van Persie but considering most gooners do, the players should've been more aware of that. No need for handbags but equally no need for that shit. But they're just following the manager's lead, I guess. Makes you question why you give more of a shit than them.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Nothing new on the football side, but it was interesting seeing all out players hugging and shaking hands in the tunnel with Van Persie (Arteta, Wilshere and Vermaelen - the captain candidates - being the worst of the bunch). It wasn't on sky but there was a vid posted on YouTube from someone in the tunnel. It shows how out of touch the players are with the fans. I don't even hate Van Persie but considering most gooners do, the players should've been more aware of that. No need for handbags but equally no need for that shit. But they're just following the manager's lead, I guess. Makes you question why you give more of a shit than them.

Yeah but RVP was their mate, why should they hate him, cause the club could not match his ambition. TV5 was gutted when he left, he has never insulted him to this day. Like you say players are diffrent to fans. Even if they did not shake hands, they have probs gone out with him for a drink later on anyways.

If Wenger and his team blank RVP, the media says they are bitter.