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Thread: Samir "The Weasel" Nasri - The Epitome of Wenger's Failings!!!

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    Tevez, Rooney, Ronaldo - they all had there price tbh. It's funny how there ignored by those who eulogise over SAF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    Your talking a load of crap tbh. Contract talks started last season. When our competitors could easily double his wages I'm not surprised he's looking to be off. I mean there's loyalty, and then there's being paid something resembling the market rate.
    Contract talks started last season???

    Jesus christ? You mean we've been in negotiations with him for almost a year?

    This is a joke right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    Tevez, Rooney, Ronaldo - they all had there price tbh. It's funny how there ignored by those who eulogise over SAF.
    Noone's ignored those, Tevez didn't feel wanted at the club, Ronaldo they got a shedload for (every player has his price) and Rooney signed on for big money.

    Barca and Real are two clubs which every player will want to play for given the chance to be fair, even in our prime we'd have found it hard to keep players these clubs wanted. The point of the stadium was to change that, it is changing but in the wrong direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsme View Post
    success, signing players and when the time comes paying big money to his top stars.

    Players know that if they come to man u, it almost comes with guaranteed medals.
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    noone's ignored those, tevez didn't feel wanted at the club, ronaldo they got a shedload for (every player has his price) and rooney signed on for big money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    You'll notice I said in the first comment paying big money to his stars which is what he did with Rooney. Noone would have refused the money they got for Ronaldo...and Tevez he didn't seem too bothered about if we're honest.

    Still they don't go through the loss of players every summer at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Contract talks started last season???

    Jesus christ? You mean we've been in negotiations with him for almost a year?

    This is a joke right?
    Yes, this has been dragging on for a really long time, we usually offer contract extensions when players have 24 to 18 months left on there contract - like we have just done to RVP.

    Our wage structure is a structural problem with the club - we just can't offer more money, it's amazing to see how many fans jump on this as a weakness of Wenger clearly isn't. Getting transfers in... Now that's another problem.

    And where was Dein when Ashley Cole left?

    Basically, if your unable to understand the relationship between success and money, after this season then there's no hope for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    Your talking a load of crap tbh. Contract talks started last season. When our competitors could easily double his wages I'm not surprised he's looking to be off. I mean there's loyalty, and then there's being paid something resembling the market rate.
    What's the load o crap? The fact that we didn't tie up his contract earlier and act earlier when he was stalling? The fact that we've seen this happen in our team before and that we've actually captialised off players delaying contract talks ourselves? The player is scum, no doubt but how many times can you get done like this before you start putting procedures in order to make sure it doesn't happen again? We knew Nasri had potential and is worth a bit on the Market, so shouldn't we make sure we protect our major assets? On the pitch he may be lukewarm at times but his Market value is pretty high. At least £15m but with a year left on his contract we've screwed ourselves. Even from a business sense it's naive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog Toffee View Post
    Why is everything that goes wrong with Arsenal always Wengers fault.

    Whats he supposed to do, force him to sign a contract? Maybe Wenger should get a little credit for finding Nasri for less than we sold Hleb for, who most ppl on here thought was our best player for most of last season, and made it into the PFA team of the season.

    It would suck to lose Nasri but he's hardly acted as badly as alot of premiership players recently (Rooney anyone?). I think he'l sign eventually but it aint Wengers fault if the guys a cunt.
    This isn't Wengers fault per say but he's not blameless in all of this either. It's no coincidence we go through this every single season, sure players want to leave Man United, Citeh & Chelsea but not their top stars every single summer.

    I'm hoping that if Nasri really doesn't want to stay Arsene touts him around Europe and goes looking for a PROPER replacement, not an internal replacement like promoting some youth, a proper player who can make a difference to our team now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    How does Sir Alex prevent his top players from leaving?
    He sucks them off?


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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    Yes, this has been dragging on for a really long time , we usually offer contract extensions when players have 24 to 18 months left on there contract - like we have just done to RVP.

    Our wage structure is a structural problem with the club - we just can't offer more money, it's amazing to see how many fans jump on this as a weakness of Wenger clearly isn't. Getting transfers in... Now that's another problem.

    And where was Dein when Ashley Cole left?

    Basically, if your unable to understand the relationship between success and money, after this season then there's no hope for you.
    The parts I've highlighted are failings of the club/Wenger. Why on earth do we allow these negotiations to drag on for so long? It is absolutely ridiculous and a problem in itself. We should set the player/agent a time limit and if the contracts not signed then the player should be made available for transfer.

    Our wage structure isn't a problem really, the problem we have is that Arsene has these ideals about having a fair wage structure and subsequently pays squad players like Eboue, Denilson & Rosicky huge wages. Not to mention the wages we pay to our youth. You take away 3 or 4 of these players who contribute next to nothing and the wages are there to satisfy our star players.

    Look I'm not saying we should throw money around like it's going out of fashion, but we have problems in the squad that need to be addressed and these problems go hand in hand with our crazy wage structure.

    I understand the relationship between success and money, I also understand that we have a deeply flawed wage structure at our club that is holding us back right now.

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