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    the worst wenger side ever could be the best since 2006?

    if we get third, and its now not that big an if, we really could get it if we perform like we have in the last three games, does this mean that htis years worst side could actually be wengers best side since 2006. there is something this season that i love about this team, the fight and desire they have shown, the spirit is great, i firmly believe if we keep this team as it is and get some good quality players in it could be a special team.

    my point though is more, if we get third will this team be the best since 2006 instead of the worst. yes we dont have the worlds greatest players in it like last seasons but we have something more, we have players who care, this isnt just a job, its their club, a club they love. its great to see that at last

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    The best team we've had in recent memory is 07-08, they got 83 points and only lost 3 games all season (Only 1 until the end of March). They collapsed, as Arsenal do of course, but the quality and consistency of that team is much better than the current crop.

    If we get 3rd and finish 15+ points behind the champions, that is not progress, it is an indication of how weak the competition has been around us this year. Notably the worst Chelsea team in years and a stagnant Liverpool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    The best team we've had in recent memory is 07-08, they got 83 points and only lost 3 games all season (Only 1 until the end of March). They collapsed, as Arsenal do of course, but the quality and consistency of that team is much better than the current crop.

    If we get 3rd and finish 15+ points behind the champions, that is not progress, it is an indication of how weak the competition has been around us this year. Notably the worst Chelsea team in years and a stagnant Liverpool.
    I'm not convinced. I think that the other teams in the league who used to lie down and die for the top clubs now get up and in the faces of the top teams. Although manu are above and challenging, they have had plenty of games where they have only just scraped it because of how the lower teams have been playing. Comparing points from year to year is not a valid comparison - you have to look at how the other clubs performed that year in terms of effort. The only thing you can look at is relative position. 3rd is better than 4th even if you get fewer points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coney View Post
    I'm not convinced. I think that the other teams in the league who used to lie down and die for the top clubs now get up and in the faces of the top teams. Although manu are above and challenging, they have had plenty of games where they have only just scraped it because of how the lower teams have been playing. Comparing points from year to year is not a valid comparison - you have to look at how the other clubs performed that year in terms of effort. The only thing you can look at is relative position. 3rd is better than 4th even if you get fewer points.
    I always like to look at how far we are from 1st, or if applicable as it is this year 2nd as well. To me that is the measuring stick we need to live by if we want to one day move up to that level.

    3rd would good this year, mainly because we would have finished above Spurs - but in reality being 15 odd points behind where we want to be cannot be looked upon as significant progress. This is the same stagnant level we play at every year, only difference this year is that Chelsea are slumming it with us and Spurs have over-achieved.
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    One thing I would say though, is that there are certain characters and individuals in this team that are worth sticking with and believing in. Which is something you couldn't say for past teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    One thing I would say though, is that there are certain characters and individuals in this team that are worth sticking with and believing in. Which is something you couldn't say for past teams.
    Id go with that. . .I have gone on record as saying I thought that this years version even though technically inferior is mentally stronger and more balanced than recent squads. I stick by this assessment besides the fact that cracks have been there for all to see.
    We are still a work in progress and we can see that. . .there is still a big difference in many senses between us and the top two, quality=points - for me the biggest balls up was the run we went on after the Villa game, we lost some serious ground there - if we can find condistency then even this so called shit squad can challenge , if we can add to the core of Sir Ches, Kos, Jack Oxo and RvP, then we could dare to dream again. . .

    Only thing is. . .it wont be till next year. . .but we can still look forward to one thing and that is giving a bitch slap to the Scum as we over take their spend at all costs squad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coney View Post
    I'm not convinced. I think that the other teams in the league who used to lie down and die for the top clubs now get up and in the faces of the top teams. Although manu are above and challenging, they have had plenty of games where they have only just scraped it because of how the lower teams have been playing. Comparing points from year to year is not a valid comparison - you have to look at how the other clubs performed that year in terms of effort. The only thing you can look at is relative position. 3rd is better than 4th even if you get fewer points.
    We were competing with a very strong Chelsea, a stronger Liverpool and the best Man United team of the decade who 'only' got 87 points and I argue the teams below were stronger then and the bottom teams are horrible this year.
    If we had won the league that year it would have been a better accomplishment than the invincibles imo

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    I'm not sure if I'm suffering from a short-term memory loss, but I think having Rosicky in the centre of the midfield gives us that much more character than a midfield with Fabregas. Only thing is- he can't/won't head the ball. Neither could Fabregas saying that. But playing Rosicky in that position (something that GWers were crying our for in 2006) has been a revelation. Playing a tough midfield like Rosicky/Arteta/Song resembles Vieira/Edu/Parlour, in my opinion.
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    It might well be the worst squad under Wenger. But football isn't played on paper and getting 3rd - if we get it - would be a good indicator that we've played greater than the sum of our parts. Or that we've got a goalscoring god up front who is playing at a level that has not been matched in England.

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