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    Has Wenger conceded the league - again?

    Maybe this thread is a bit previous, given that we have a few hours of the transfer window left - but the noises coming out so far suggest it won't be.

    I've been trying to get my head around both the attitude of our manager.

    I think its generally acknowledged that we are severely lacking in options up front - and a Giroud injury away from having a serious goalscoring problem. We ran a massive risk not investing in another proper striker last Summer - and are very fortunate that things have worked OK so far - but that's been down to a large extent on Ramsey - whose form had nosedived even before his injury (and who will doubtless now only play a bit part for the rest of the season - we are looking at 10 weeks or more on current prognisis for him to return and hit form again), and Theo, who is out for the season. We might be 'surprised' by Wenger signing a 'stop gap' before 11pm tonight, but even if he does our experience tells us that this is unlikely to be a signing that maintains a realistic title push.

    The risk continues in defence - and even in the DM position. We have got where we are this season laregly because of the Merts/Kossy pairing. Vermaelen may be an adequate replacement, or he may not. But beyond him we are in trouble. If Sagna gets injured, Jenkinson has shown frailties. In DM we are relying on a free transfer who has faded since the season began, and is a potential red card waiting to happen (this is not to do Flamini down - but to point out that he is a risk in many respects), and Arteta, who is getting on - and in any event, not a real DM. Our understudy, Coquelin, has been farmed out on loan.

    So why is Wenger operating what amounts to a skeleton squad in all these positions? What does it mean in terms of our title/silverware aspirations? To me, its bare minimum CL position preparation. No more.

    Yet he spunks 42M on Ozil. With another manager, Ozil's signing would seem like a serious statement of intent. And if it wasn't for the other factors, I'd have said it represented Wenger's first genuine atempt in years to win something. But ATM (and seemingly for the forseeable future) Ozil is like buying the best rifle scope on the market then attaching it to a bog standard rifle. And that's not to mention that Ozil was added to a squad already bloated with attacking MF's. When you consider that Wilshere; Ramsey; Gnabry and the Ox are all AW's pet developmental players, while Rosicky; Cazorla should be considered top first team players it is very strange that he would spend so much on a player who will stunt the development of other players - an excuse that he has regularly used to explain non-investment in other areas.

    Even this transfer window appears strange. Spending effort on trying to bring Draxler to the club when first there is no incentive whatsoever for Shalke to sell below his release clause, and secondly he would be very unlikely to make a big difference to our chances of winning something this season anyway. Massive echoes of Suarez in the Summer, really.

    And its becoming increasingly difficult to suggest that Wenger's choices are imposed finacially.

    This is not supposed to be yet another thread bemoaning lack of transfer activity, its an atempt to understand WTF is going on in Wenger's head. With the perennial injury situation that only an idiot would not anticipate - why is the manager so obviously tying one hand behind his back? Does he honestly think that a gamble that has lost for so many of the last 9 years will succeeed this time? Has he effectively conceded the league to the big spenders - and if so why the Ozil signing? Or does he think that Ozil was necessary simply to keep our CL slot?

    If he's conceded the league this season, and with the likes of Ozil and Draxler is looking to future success - why future and not now? Because to me the only likelihood is that its going to get progressively more difficult to compete against financial doping going forwards.

    Or is the reality that the world's 4th highest paid manager is more interested in playing the game in his ideal aesthetic way than trying to win serious silverware?

    There are bound to be posters who (if they can be bothered at all) reply to this saying that I'm bitching and moaning when we're 1 point off the league - and that Wenger's achieved much simply to get us where we are. For me that's not the point. If we win something this season - great, and well done Wenger. But the reality is that this will be more through luck than planning. What I simply can't understand is why we don't seem to be taking the obvious steps that are in the club's power to make silverware more likely. And that has nothing to do with either improvement or current league position.
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    Jesus! Stop bitching and moaning when we're 1 point off the league - and Wenger's achieved much simply to get us where we are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Jesus! Stop bitching and moaning when we're 1 point off the league - and Wenger's achieved much simply to get us where we are.
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    I don't get Wenger at all, but let's see what happens first. He seems to lack ambition but then that has been the case for many years now. We need a striker but I would have been happy with draxler as it would have shown intent.

    Whatever, we should get 4th but who knows...

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    Apparently Summer 2014 is when it all starts happening for us. I guess we give them till then to show a bit of ambition in terms of winning a trophy.
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    I just don't think winning the leagie is anything more than a 'nice to have' at this Club. That said, we aren't in the position we are in because of 'luck'
    Of the teams in the top 3, we have had to work a lot harder than those around us to be here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve French View Post
    I just don't think winning the leagie is anything more than a 'nice to have' at this Club. That said, we aren't in the position we are in because of 'luck'
    Of the teams in the top 3, we have had to work a lot harder than those around us to be here.
    Agreed, with all the ngativity going on at the moment we shouldn't forget what a great 1st half of the season we've had.

    But what a missed opportunity this could be to really go for it. Shame it will probaby end up with a 'what if' at the end of the season, as opposed to a 'we gave it our best shot'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve French View Post
    I just don't think winning the leagie is anything more than a 'nice to have' at this Club. That said, we aren't in the position we are in because of 'luck'
    Of the teams in the top 3, we have had to work a lot harder than those around us to be here.
    I agree 100per cent with the first part of your post. The irony is that combined, our 2 owners are probably worth as much as any of the sugar daddies around. The difference is that while they have pumped money into their clubs, our shareholders have taken money out!

    That said - there seems no serious appetite on the part of our manager even to maximise the resources we have. And for me that is down to ideology, as much if not more than how financially doped our competitors are. To me, there seems to be almost a resignation that we can't really win the league (and a holding back because of it) - because it can't make sense 'building' for a tomorrow that is never going to come.

    As for the second part of your post - I'm not sure I follow you. We have had a relatively easy run of it this season so far. We have been fortunate to have players like Ramsey hit top form, and we have finally stepped up to the plate in defence - thanks to Bould. If anything, those with bigger squads will have an easier time of it from here on in, not the other way round.

    ...and the negativity is not because of the season we've had - its that we have improved, but won't build on that improvement. Deep down, every Gooner knows that despite what we have achieved in the first half of the season, we are unlikely to match it over the whole of the season - something that - be it underperforming in the first or the last part of the season has been an intrinsic part of wenger's arsenal teams for as long as i can remember.
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    God alone knows what goes on in Wenger's head sometimes but we have shown marked inprovement this season and I always find it interesting how highly Wenger is regarded by (sensible) non-Gooners and how much he's berated by some Gooners.

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