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    Stay or Go?

    Will Wenger stay or will he go?

    Not should he but will he? His assertions before and after the final whistle were hardly convincing. Fair enough, when faced with a dickhead like Gabriel Clarke he done well not to lay the slimy weasel out on the floor but the question is still lingering despite the victory today.

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    He will stay.

    Do I want him to stay? No.

    Will I be ok with him staying? Yes, just because of the FA cup victory.
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    He'll stay. And I think he should.
    It sounds a bit kneejerk to say that on the basis of one game's result - had we lost I'd have felt he should go - but I don't think it is.
    There are very fine lines in football - I was reading Bergkamp's autobiography (it's more a series of interviews with him and others he worked with) and Parlour was talking about that penalty in the '99 Cup semi-final (). Had that gone in we'd have been in the Cup Final, would probably have won the Cup and Utd may have wobbled in the league and we'd have done a double-Double. We'll never know of course but one kick of a ball can make a massive difference to the momentum and future of a club.
    Yesterday had Gibbs not cleared that one off the line it would have been 3-0, we'd never have come back from that in the remaining time. Fine lines.

    That result yesterday gives the squad belief they CAN go on and win big trophies, it creates a feelgood factor in the squad and amongst the fans. It's a great platform to build on next season.


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    He'll stay but I do think he's taken us as far as he can. At least he's eased some of the pressure on himself though, now we have to kick on and that starts with a making some top signings this summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    He'll stay but I do think he's taken us as far as he can.
    Maybe. I guess the question is could anyone take us further? Maybe but I'd suggest not many people.

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    I think that he will stay but I hope that he will be working on a transition plan that will enable the club to bring in a new manager without the collapse we saw with Man U this season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    He'll stay but I do think he's taken us as far as he can. At least he's eased some of the pressure on himself though, now we have to kick on and that starts with a making some top signings this summer.
    The question with AW is not so much what he's capable of doing as a manager, but more what he's willing to do

    For me he has to show a willingness both to strengthen properly in the summer (and that means sometimes paying over the odds and not sticking to his own personal valuation so dogmatically), and to adopt a game plan against the bigger teams.

    My concern with him, and the main reason i'm still not convinced about his ability to win trophies is that he is far too stubborn, is he a dictator in the way that bald idiot stuart robson describes him?...No i think he's very non-confrontational but i think he has a tendency to listen to what other people nod his head in agreement and then do his own thing anyway.

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    But yes he will stay, and to be fair for me he has acheived enough this season to deserve the chance to push on. I have my doubts whether he can get us where i feel we should be, but it'd be nice for him to prove me wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    The question with AW is not so much what he's capable of doing as a manager, but more what he's willing to do

    For me he has to show a willingness both to strengthen properly in the summer (and that means sometimes paying over the odds and not sticking to his own personal valuation so dogmatically), and to adopt a game plan against the bigger teams.

    My concern with him, and the main reason i'm still not convinced about his ability to win trophies is that he is far too stubborn, is he a dictator in the way that bald idiot stuart robson describes him?...No i think he's very non-confrontational but i think he has a tendency to listen to what other people nod his head in agreement and then do his own thing anyway.
    Yep, totally this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    The question with AW is not so much what he's capable of doing as a manager, but more what he's willing to do

    For me he has to show a willingness both to strengthen properly in the summer (and that means sometimes paying over the odds and not sticking to his own personal valuation so dogmatically), and to adopt a game plan against the bigger teams.

    My concern with him, and the main reason i'm still not convinced about his ability to win trophies is that he is far too stubborn, is he a dictator in the way that bald idiot stuart robson describes him?...No i think he's very non-confrontational but i think he has a tendency to listen to what other people nod his head in agreement and then do his own thing anyway.
    How much over the odds though? Have you seen the shite in the papers today? If true (big if, but it's certainly not unheard of) the gypos are prepared to offer Sagna a 4 year, 150K pw deal. Now that's just insane. What if they decide they'd like to buy whoever we target to replace Sagna? Buy him up, put him on silly wages and loan him out, just so we can't get him? It's a tactic, isn't it - albeit a foul and anti-competitive doper tactic. The chavs have some 80 players signed up this way. These clubs are killing the transfer market, it's not so easy to say pay over the odds when the gypos and chavs can keep upping the odds with no consequences. You've seen how they have already been let off FFP, so take it for granted they can carry on doing whatever the hell they like. The limp wristed FA will do FA - they are too busy playing PR anyway. So it's not just a question of paying over the odds (now the gypos and chavs have piled inflation into the market), it's also a case of trying to conduct the deal in such a way to avoid the dopers scuppering it and also most likely with the agent casting around for some doper interest so he can drive the prices up. It really can't be that easy when you have to play by the rules and run a real business at the same time.
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