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    Can we win the Premier League again under Wenger ?

    I am not just talking this season I am talking any season.

    The man just hates to spend money and cannot see what most people can plainly see.

    The thing that concerns me the most and I hate to say it but what if Coquelin gets a 3 month injury in September or whenever, Flamini or Arteta are not good enough to fill in for that length of time, we need somebody much better.

    I think we might need a right winger as well because that is not Ramseys position and the Ox and Theo are injury prone.

    There is also Mertersacker in defence which is worrying.

    I am sure there are other things as well, like playing under real pressure and easing off when we are two nil up which we seem to do.

    I hate to say this but at the moment we have no chance whatsoever of winning the Premier League or the Champions League anytime soon.

    I wonder sometimes if Wenger really wants to win but then I'm sure I am wrong to think that.

    It is incredibly frustrating.

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    I disagree that the squad isn't good enough. 1 or 2 more additons would be nice but not essential. Bit harsh to say he hates to spend money as well given how much we've spunked in last couple of years.

    However to answer your question I don't think we'll win it again under Wenger as for me his tactics / approach will let us down when it comes to crunch time. Hoping to put up more of a fight this season though.

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    No. We will no doubt "somehow" fail to prepare for those crunch games, and win some "big" matches when they are meaningless. Hoping to be proved wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gooner23 View Post
    I disagree that the squad isn't good enough. 1 or 2 more additons would be nice but not essential. Bit harsh to say he hates to spend money as well given how much we've spunked in last couple of years.

    However to answer your question I don't think we'll win it again under Wenger as for me his tactics / approach will let us down when it comes to crunch time. Hoping to put up more of a fight this season though.
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    We can but it seems like Wenger is handicapping us.

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    I don't think Wenger is good enough to extract that extra 10% needed to put us on the right side of those fine margins. Our seasons are always night and day in how we perform, there's never a consistent spread and that's why we never come close.

    Only way I see us possibly winning the league is if we make more signings cut from the same cloth as Alexis, players who can slot in without fuss and deliver whatever the situation. Only bona fide worldies will improve us now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I don't think Wenger is good enough to extract that extra 10% needed to put us on the right side of those fine margins. Our seasons are always night and day in how we perform, there's never a consistent spread and that's why we never come close.

    Only way I see us possibly winning the league is if we make more signings cut from the same cloth as Alexis, players who can slot in without fuss and deliver whatever the situation. Only bona fide worldies will improve us now.
    Highlighted bit is a nice summary.

    Only way I see us possibly winning the league is if we make more signings cut from the same cloth as Alexis
    Vidal. By not at least attempting to sign him Wenger has demonstrated that nothing at all has changed - he still intends to do things 100% his way even though his way has been comprehensively shown to be ineffective in this league and in the CL.

    We COULD win a title under Wenger. If many, many things went our way and went against our opponents we could do a Liverpool and maybe push that extra yard to the finish line. Then again, at the crunch those fine margins would show up again. We'd have to fluke it, we wouldn't win with the power and authority of Wenger's early squads. Even if we did fluke it, it would be a one-off, we'd be 4th again the following season.

    Wenger is an historic figure at Arsenal and he'll rightly go down as a legend for many positive reasons. But in the last decade he's fallen way off the pace. Certainly he's still PL level but he can't raise his game to the very top when he needs to. We know it because we have seen it so many time, when the chips are down Wenger busts. We know this and the fact he's not pushing on this year to add the world class player or players that could compensate shows a disconnect in his own mind between his capabilities and the realities.

    He places way too much faith in players that don't reward that faith. In so many ways, Wenger's way is how football should be. But it isn't. It's the Arab way, the Russian Mafia way, the Blatter way. That's football. Not good for Wenger and ultimately not good for the global fan base but the modern game is just a reflection on the world in general. Look at the politicians. Look at the banks and big corporations. Look at all the fat bastards in the city while a third of the world goes hungry. Football is only as unpleasant and ugly as the rest of human endeavour. Wenger is an idealist. Plainly he hates the modern game. It's hard to condemn him for that but maybe he should get out of it rather than persist with his water pistol philosophy in the face of Uzi toting wankers.

    On the other hand, if everyone with a decent bone in their body fucks off what do we have left? In a lot of ways we should have pride in the way Wenger conducts his business. He's doing things for the right reasons - protecting young players, trying to build long term careers, focusing on the purer aspects of the game. None of that wins you the title these days. Fucking shame but that's how it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Vidal.
    This. Like a midfield Alexis Sanchez. Would probably punch Charlie Adam's ugly teeth back down his ugly throat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann View Post
    This. Like a midfield Alexis Sanchez. Would probably punch Charlie Adam's ugly teeth back down his ugly throat.
    Sometimes I think Ramsey would get more credit if he was uglier and had a shit haircut. He's our Vidal, probably better in all honesty. And you can't have two of them or else the midfield loses all shape. Ramsey Ozil and Coquelin stay injury free, our midfield isn't the reason we don't win a title. Giroud's shit finishing is, if we're trying to pinpoint the problem. He needs Sanchez to become Suarez so his hard, creative work will be noticed and his shit finishing won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dostoy View Post
    Flamini or Arteta are not good enough to fill in for that length of time

    I think we might need a right winger as well.
    I wouldn't worry about that, Flamini is likely to go this week and Arteta is probably not going to stay fit enough to play anyway so you want to worry more about us having no cover.


    Nick Griffin? He's quite right wing

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