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    Wenger - does he even understand whats wrong?

    Listening to some pundits on 5 Live discussing who should manage West Ham now, I was struck by the unanimity in fans saying that he should be someone who has played for the club and understands its traditions.

    When I look back on the past 6 seasons, I honestly can't say that I have seen players whose heart and soul is in the club (Wilshere apart?).

    Wenger inherited this quality when he first arrived. His Invincibles played with players who knew what it meant to play for Arsenal.

    We are all agreed that this is what is missing now, when our players, though capable enough, will not fight that extra bit. It has been thrown into sharp relief with the CC final and following debacle this season.

    Could it be that Wenger, never a really succesful player, simply doesn"t understand that this is the extra 2%? And never will.

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    I think he understands it, but falsely believes this team does have that extra 2%.

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    The problem is that he appears to have lost so much perspective due to his all-powerful position - that it wouldn't surprise me if he has a blind spot like this.
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    The players have had an outstanding attitude. We have accumulated disappointments that have had a big impact on the moral of the team. But we are not to go overboard. Maybe one year you will realise that it is not easy to finish in the top four every time.
    When will he learn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adzzzbatch View Post
    When will he learn?
    Never. That is why he has to go now.

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    An outstanding attitude??? Does he even know what that means, and/or how it make him look?
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    He's doesn't want to understand as he's so adamant his way is the right way. Sometimes it just feels like he's on a crusade to prove people wrong at all costs, he contuinues to do things because people are saying he shouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nasri Scoreng View Post
    Listening to some pundits on 5 Live discussing who should manage West Ham now, I was struck by the unanimity in fans saying that he should be someone who has played for the club and understands its traditions.

    When I look back on the past 6 seasons, I honestly can't say that I have seen players whose heart and soul is in the club (Wilshere apart?).

    Wenger inherited this quality when he first arrived. His Invincibles played with players who knew what it meant to play for Arsenal.

    We are all agreed that this is what is missing now, when our players, though capable enough, will not fight that extra bit. It has been thrown into sharp relief with the CC final and following debacle this season.

    Could it be that Wenger, never a really succesful player, simply doesn"t understand that this is the extra 2%? And never will.
    There are two things in this initial post that have to be commented on.

    (1) It is fine and dandy for Wet Sham fans to be united in their desire to have a manager who "who has played for the club and understands its traditions" but coming from a team that has just got relegated and has never won the top division (3rd being the highest), they are not looking for a successful manager.

    (2) "Could it be that Wenger, never a really succesful player, simply doesn"t understand that this is the extra 2%?" So, only a successful player can appreciate what is necessary for players they manage to be successful? You had better tell Alex Ferguson that he will never make it as a successful manager because his playing career was so crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner View Post
    (2) "Could it be that Wenger, never a really succesful player, simply doesn"t understand that this is the extra 2%?" So, only a successful player can appreciate what is necessary for players they manage to be successful? You had better tell Alex Ferguson that he will never make it as a successful manager because his playing career was so crap.
    I think NS means that people who have had sucess and love for a certain club, would give more for it. AW has no ties to AFC so really owes them nothing maybe in his view, all he is doing is getting paid.

    Does AW really have passion for the club? i mean he is no way like King kenny is he, i mean the club has never has an era of dominace has it. Maybe its easier for aw not to win things because its not a requitement at the club and has not really been so unlike UTD.

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    AW has a passion for the Club. That cannot be disputed in my opinion.

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