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    Arsenal v Southampton/Arteta player ratings

    Fuckin shambles.

    Worst performance of the season last week so of course Arteta sets up exactly the same. Stupid wee dick that he is.

    Canny even be fucked rating people, tbh.

    If we have to watch Tommy and White at fullback again this season I swear tae fuck...I'll be right on here moaning like fuck again.
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    Mental that Tomi is playing left back.

    It’s one thing to come in and do a job on someone (Salah) but it’s another thing to actually play every week when the same threats aren’t there.

    Self sabotage IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Mental that Tomi is playing left back.

    It’s one thing to come in and do a job on someone (Salah) but it’s another thing to actually play every week when the same threats aren’t there.

    Self sabotage IMO.
    It's the kind of thing Pep does at City, mind you he has higher calibre players to choose from. The Tomi left back experiment needs to stop though, it's not like there is anything wrong with Tierney unless he is still working his way back to full fitness? I don't know.

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    Like others I wasn't too impressed with our performance yesterday or Arteta's, however I am not sure I agree with rotating the squad too much, we simply lack quality depth options, we are still in that stage of upgrading our squad depth. I do agree that Arteta made some strange decisions yesterday with the Tomi continuing at left back and taking off Ode and Martinelli, but it could be worse and we have only dropped points in 2 games, yes 2 games so far this season!!! Our start has been near flawless. That doesn't mean we should now let standards drop, but we have to accept we are not going to get perfect performances every week or even win every week!

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Like others I wasn't too impressed with our performance yesterday or Arteta's, however I am not sure I agree with rotating the squad too much, we simply lack quality depth options, we are still in that stage of upgrading our squad depth. I do agree that Arteta made some strange decisions yesterday with the Tomi continuing at left back and taking off Ode and Martinelli, but it could be worse and we have only dropped points in 2 games, yes 2 games so far this season!!! Our start has been near flawless. That doesn't mean we should now let standards drop, but we have to accept we are not going to get perfect performances every week or even win every week!
    I have to say I agree with this, it’s really not like the players not getting a look in are particularly showing that much in the Europa league. Nketiah who I do like was poor in the last two games he started, and he was giving the ball away a lot against Southampton.
    The Tomoyasu thing is galaxy brained and I think he didn’t seem to know what he was doing when trying to defend against Elyounoussi for their equaliser.

    Whilst I far from agree with all his transfer decisions I do think he is slowly building a squad, I am it’s abundantly clear no fan of Arteta but I’m not going to get too much on his case yesterday…the players needed to be more clinical in front of goal in the first half but equally I’m not heartbroken about dropping points against Southampton.

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    i agree with the comments about Eddie, but Jesus wasn't up to much yesterday so we have to use what we have until we can buy in January when we really need to buy

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    I have to say I agree with this, it’s really not like the players not getting a look in are particularly showing that much in the Europa league. Nketiah who I do like was poor in the last two games he started, and he was giving the ball away a lot against Southampton.
    The Tomoyasu thing is galaxy brained and I think he didn’t seem to know what he was doing when trying to defend against Elyounoussi for their equaliser.

    Whilst I far from agree with all his transfer decisions I do think he is slowly building a squad, I am it’s abundantly clear no fan of Arteta but I’m not going to get too much on his case yesterday…the players needed to be more clinical in front of goal in the first half but equally I’m not heartbroken about dropping points against Southampton.
    I'm not going to defend Eddie's past couple of performances, but he was by no means the only player giving the ball away against Southampton - the whole team was. Eddie scored in the 1st leg vs Bodo Glimt, so we are only really talking about the 2 subsequent Europa League games where he started but failed to score, and the away leg at Bodo can really be chalked off as a whole team bad day.

    I do feel that if Arteta wants to see the best from him, Eddie needs to have a run starting in games where we are not playing a second string team, and as a number 9. If nothing else, we need to see whether if given this responsibility he can get to where he was for us when he got a go last season.

    Like you, I don't think we need to be too downhearted about the result yesterday, but I would like to see us being able to rely on other options when first teamers aren't firing.
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    Disappointing result. Horrendous officiating - but we should have won this game nevertheless.

    For me, the team was guilty of complacency. We were alright in the first half, and scored too early - but IMO the players dropped several levels in the second half because they thought we had the game.

    The other thing that worries me is that teams have inevitably worked us out. If we don't go 2 goals ahead after our customary first half an hour blitz, they play a low block and wait for the inevitable opening that our high line will present. Earlier on in the season, Jesus' genius would keep the other team well penned back and he would tend either to score or pull the other team so out of defensive shape that someone else would profit. For the past few games he has been marked out of the game, and seems to be playing at 75% since the Liverpool game. Xhaka aside, we have begun to look a bit predicable, and there seems to be an absence of game changers to bring on. I do not think that either Nketiah or Vieira are impact subs.

    And I agree with those questioning the manager's personnel decisions. Tomi at LB worked against Liverpool, but he should not be being started there every game. There is nothing wrong with Tierney there. We are seeing the same mistakes made with our back up players that we saw last season. It won't work - either phsychologically or in player effectiveness not giving starts/playing time to the likes of Eddie; Vieira or Marquinos, and then expecting them to make the difference when a game is already drifting away from us and the general level of the team has dropped. We saw last season how Eddie needs consecutive starts to reach full performance, and its not fair to him to play him out wide and expect results. If anything it should be the other way round. Give these players starts and bring on the so-called 'big guns' if things arent going to plan. Arteta's lack of faith in players on the fringes of the first team is worrying, when everyone can see that we are looking a bit flat recently.

    That said - the weekend results have shown is that almost any team can take points off those in the leading pack, and our good start sees us top. We can't let the rot start though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mandela8 View Post
    Fuckin shambles.

    Worst performance of the season last week so of course Arteta sets up exactly the same. Stupid wee dick that he is.

    Canny even be fucked rating people, tbh.

    If we have to watch Tommy and White at fullback again this season I sweat tae fuck...I'll be right on here moaning like fuck again.
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    Only the second game all season we haven’t won.
    Anyone losing their shit over that needs to have a word with themselves.
    But the performances of late haven’t been great, we got away with it against Leeds, not today. But you’re not going to win every game, need to get going again in the next game.

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