the thing is with RVP there is now only one club in england he would sign for, and that would be united. the only club that can pretty much guantee him trophies.
he would have seen citeh on sunday, realised they are all a bunch of money grabbing ****s, realised they are not a team and would have seen them bottle winning everything. why would he go there after seeing them fuck up?
Think if he went to any of the top 4 clubs he win cups with them, i just can't see him staying in the prem if he was to move, this would be his last big move and i think he want it to be to Madrid or Barca tbh.Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
We've just won 9 out of 10 at the business end of the season. City, the chavs and the scum are collapsing, we aren't. Anyone who can't see that's different is looking to pick holes come what may. A big name signing is already in the bag - doesn't mean he'll make it here but same holds true for any player moving to the PL. Where's Mata and Silva now? Good players playing in teams with bags of cash, but they still can't make the difference. Whereas we've had amazing seasons out of RvP, Kos, Ches, Song, Tomas fucking Rosicky if you can believe that! He's playing way better than Nasri, twice the player in fact.
Things are very different here right now. There's momentum, there's a team actually taking shape, the deadweight hasn't been on the pitch for months, Chamakh, Arshavin, Bendtner, Squillaci, Denilson, all gone. Young talent is coming through, Ox is a superstar in the making, Jack will be back, even Theo is playing. When it looked like we were going to finally collapse and drop out of the top flight the team dug in and played better than every other team around them. We hauled back 13 points on the scum and have turned them into a laughing stock. Last year the same shit was happening to us. So it's different for sure.
And Wenger has stayed 100% true to his beliefs throughout. Doesn't matter whether you agree with him or not, he said we had a team here and he turned out to be right. Will it all collapse next year. Maybe if we hope enough we can make that happen. Or we can just enjoy what's going on now, decent football again, results, good team performances, clean sheets, coming back from 2 down to hammer the enemy and end their season (instead of throwing 4 goal leads away). Why not hope for the best? The signs are there to say that hope wouldn't be misplaced. As fans it's surely better to do that and get some fucking fun out of the game rather than assume disaster. Better to say we'll win it next year and I HOPE I'm not proved wrong rather than say, hey I hope I'm not proved right but we're going to collapse.
It's different now and it can be different next season and the worst that can be said for anyone who buys into that is they have a belief in their team based on what the team is doing on the pitch right now.
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Chelsea have won 8 out of the 11 games RDM has been in charge for.
Some collapse.
We've seen this all before with Arsenal. Yes its a good run but all its really done is convince Wenger he doesnt have to spend this summer cos he thinks this squad of players can handle it. It clearly cant.
Now you mention Podolski and hes a very good player but hes coming in to replace RVP so we arent really adding to our squad.
Same shit, different season
We've gone on good runs before. 07/08 we didnt lose til december. Season after we went on a 20 game unbeaten run IIRC with Denilson as our main man in midfield whilst Cesc feigned injury and pined for Barca. He came back and we had our asses handed to us in the Cup semi and CL semi. Pretty sure we had decent runs in the 09/10 and 10/11 season as well just like we are seeing now.
Its not enough. it might convince some of the gullibles on here that this club has changed. It hasnt. Seen it all too often and cant get too excited about it although admittedly beating Man City was my highlight of the season cos i actually watched that whereas i didnt when we scored 5 past Chelsea and Spuds
No, we haven't. I and others have explained why this feels different.
Speculation. I don't think RvP is going anywhere. If he does then OK, we're screwed, but I think he'll stay and the Podolski thing shows we're looking to get business done early this time. Again, a clear difference from past years.Now you mention Podolski and hes a very good player but hes coming in to replace RVP
Spoken like a true MOC member.
And I and others have explained why it feels the same. Ultimately one of us will be proved right. I hope its you guys. History suggests it'll be us.
As for RVP, when a player says he wants to leave contract talks til the end of the season, that spells trouble. You'll hear all the standard BS about how he wants to concentrate on the season etc etc but what it really means is he wants to see where this team is going, where we'll finish this season, what we'll do this summer and so on.
Best way of keeping him is to sign quality players, show him we mean business. This summer is massive.
Failure by Wenger to sign quality early in the summer could be the end of RVP and thus the team.
Im not holding out on much hope
But unlike those who left before its obvious RVP loves this club, where as for all Cesc saying it, you know he never really and his heart was with Barca.
Its not really clear if he wants to go like cesc where we all knew he was going, so really if he does decide to go in the summer we can only hope to sell to the highest bidder if it takes long then not much we can do, where as with cesc there was.
Don't think its fair to call people gullibles for believing in the best for their team because you don't makes them fans who want the best.
I agree its down to Wenger to prove that he has change and the clubs ambitions have changed.
MOCSpoken like a true MOC member.
(Also, good post NQ, fuck the doom merchants)
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