FUCK OFF NOW WENGER! YOU'RE A JOKE MAN.

[Marc Overmars]

He only has himself to blame for persisting with certain players and tactics that have consistently let him down.

You'd think by now the huge amount of pain and humiliation would have affected him but it hasn't.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

He's the manager and should take ultimate responsibility they're his players, his tatics, his methods etc and it's been a rinse and repeat (always repeat) every year for the last 7 no matter what players he has.

Well yes, but if they demand to play, then they should at least show effort. Even the worse players in the world show effort. No point saying you want to play then do a santi and be shite all game or Poldi. Which is why i think the media twisted that shite about players demanding to play. Not one looked like they did.

I agree though Playing Gev as a striker, when you have one on the bench was dumb. Though tbf both where bad as each other.

Ramsey was not as bad a gev today tbh. But we all know he is not a starter and we never seem to win when he plays.

Wenger is finished though, tactially inept, showed today.

[KSE Comedy Club]

ive said in the match thread his time is up, but there is also a part of me that will always defend him because he is the only Arsenal manager i have ever known, ive grown up only knowing him as a manger and there is a part of me that cant let that go.

he has his faults, and although i think his time is up, i do feel blame is given to him that is not deserved, he makes mistakes, but players do too, not sure how much a manager can do when a player misses an open goal from 2 yards out. yes he has his faults, its time to go, but the board have a lot to answer for, so does that **** stan, the players, everyone does. but there will always be a part of me taht defends wenger because he is all i have ever known.

I know that mate, just trying to say its time to let that part go.

I agree, it's not his fault that gerv can't score from a foot away from goal when given a golden opportunity, but the trouble is, we've seen this happen too many times, over and over again, and ultimately he is the guy who buys these players and persists with them.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Charlie, you don't know who 'demanded' (Wenger only said wanted) to play and who didn't, it could've been Arteta for all we know and he was on the bench.

Regardless, the manager has to extract performances from a team.

[fakeyank]

Well even if Wenger goes, they will won't be wasting that money on the team.

Charlie

[KSE Comedy Club]

tbf though if he played a shit team and we lost it would be his fault, lets be honest when you saw the starting line up, you must have thought Wenger wanted this cause i did.

His tactics on the pitch cost him big though.

Like Oliie said if these players demanded to play should they not then step up? Im sorry but even with Gev and Ramsey, we should be beating Fucking Bradford.

If this was a few years ago, then yeh, I would be blaming the players.

Trouble is we've been here all too often, and its got to the point now, where he has lost the team.

They aren't playing together anymore, they just happen to be playing football at the same time as each other.

We have serious problems in the dressing room, Wenger can't fix it and we are witnessing the results.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Charlie

meant they will not

Charlie, you don't know who 'demanded' (Wenger only said wanted) to play and who didn't, it could've been Arteta for all we know and he was on the bench.

Regardless, the manager has to extract performances from a team.

Which is why i said i don't think that whole story was true. No of them looked like they demanded it.

If this was a few years ago, then yeh, I would be blaming the players.

Trouble is we've been here all too often, and its got to the point now, where he has lost the team.

They aren't playing together anymore, they just happen to be playing football at the same time as each other.
We have serious problems in the dressing room, Wenger can't fix it and we are witnessing the results.

Fairy snuff

[Xhaka Can’t]

so last week we read that the players are upset that wenger uses the "jaded" excuse,

Yep, it is time to wheel out the 'little bit shit' excuse.

[Tipsychubbs]

We've become a 'paying off the debt' club, but when it comes to competitive football we have been a joke for a long time. No tactics, motivation or defensive organisation, the basics that come from the manager and don't expressly need money or signings to instill, as those things will be of limited use if the basics are not there.

[Gervinho's Forehead]

We've become a 'paying off the debt' club, but when it comes to competitive football we have been a joke for a long time. No tactics, motivation or defensive organisation, the basics that come from the manager and don't expressly need money or signings to instill, as those things will be of limited use if the basics are not there.

We don't have any debts to pay off now! That line used by the club wore thin a long time ago. But yeah when it comes to actually playing a game of football we're bloody terrible.