@Orbinho
Mins per goal involvement 2012-13
1 Walcott 62,
2 Hernandez 73,
3 Rooney 78,
4 van Persie 79,
5 Dzeko 79,
6 Mata 88,
7 Petric 94,
8 Ruiz 99
Who needs a footballing brain?
striker
winger
@Orbinho
Mins per goal involvement 2012-13
1 Walcott 62,
2 Hernandez 73,
3 Rooney 78,
4 van Persie 79,
5 Dzeko 79,
6 Mata 88,
7 Petric 94,
8 Ruiz 99
Who needs a footballing brain?
he is an inside forward. The first goal he scored today was from that inside forward position, but from the left (which he may be best suited).
I am not convinced by him centrally at all as I still believe he makes poor runs and cannot hold the ball up.
in fairness to Ronaldo, the numbers Cronaldo and Messi and many others are inflated. The defensive talent during Ronaldo's time trumps what we see today. If you put Ronaldo '95-96 in today's football world, he would have numbers as good if not better than Messi.Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost of Christmas
That's a good point. It also helps that they're both playing for juiced up Galatico style teams. It's the age of the dream team. There used to be a healthy amount of top players dotted around Spain, Germany, Italy, Netherlands and England. Now we're seeing a concentration of the best players moving to these juiced up Dream teams. Barca and Real would still have a super squad without Christiano and Messi. Most of the world's best players play for those two clubs. Messi is a beast but gets fantastic service with the pin point passes. They're a fantastic team. I remember when Ronaldiho move to Barca and he was a one man circus! Michael Jordan clutch style performances. Ronaldo was the same at Barca and Inter. The sort of players that had a lot more on their shoulders and had to carry a team.
They're 'inflated' because they rarely get injured and thus they're able to do it game-after-game, if L. Ronaldo wasn't unfortunate in that sense then yes he might well have but for various reasons that was not possible. The dedication to being able to stay fit is another part of Messi/Ronaldo's legacy (and PnG, I don't think I am being premature in that even if they were both struck down today). You mention 95-96, well L. Ronaldo was at PSV then - I don't really think it's going to be a fair argument to hold up the Eredivisie as the bedrock for defensive solidity but at the same time you can see just how damn good he was in spite of that. I think it's a distracting argument anyway, I just look at what the players can do.
PnG, I think the only consistent pinpoint service (when there is barely anything he needs to do) Messi gets these days, if any, is from Iniesta. Xavi has had about two direct assists to him in two years or something silly. They're a fantastic team but Messi is a huge part of it. Plus I think you might be forgetting just how well financially backed Inter were when Ronaldo was there!
Three games as a central striker, four goals and two assists so far (all vital). He fucked up 2-3 more decent chances yesterday that arguably should have led to goals but I'd argue that he's still growing into the role and will only get better as he develops.
He asked Wenger for a change in position and so far has justified his request. Up to the club to offer him the terms he wants so we don't lose another star player who is worth at least 20M in today's market (Sturridge 12M).
Throw the chequebook at him, tbh.
The King Is Back.
I agree with that.
He's weak physically and doesn't have the greatest of touches so it will be difficult for him to hold the ball up or to bring others into play. On the other hand you could argue he doesn't need to get involved in the play and should concentrate on trying to make runs and keeping the pressure on the defenders. But then his finishing isn't spectacular and he's prone to wasting a few chances before he scores one.
Inter spent money but there were also other teams around Europe spending and there wasn't such a monopoly on talent. The top Dutch, German, Italian, English and Spanish teams were all strong. Now the Dutch and Italian leagues are really weak and Germany has only just started making a comeback. But that'sa side issuet. Ronaldo was the complete forward and one the first guys that would score a ton of goals, get assists and score freekicks. The blueprint player. When he was playing, teams were still all about the fox in the box poacher types. Alan Shearer, Batistuta, Inzaghi, Bierhoff, Crespo, Kluivert types. That's why I say he's the prototype because he's one of the few strikers that would excel in this era and fetch a hefty transfer fee now. His peers around that era would struggle in a team like Barca now.
Beast!! I wish there was a player out there now doing this sort of thing.
rather have bendtner tbh
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