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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz View Post
    maybe it will be used to maintain things. maybe it is not a high point of arsenal's history but ffs, if you cannot get any pride at any time from anything arsenal are doing at the moment then i don't get what you are doing watching. i really don't. yes it's been a painfully shit season, led by a manager that needs to go come the summer. anyone with half a mind can see that. if you are telling me your reaction would have been the same with yet another heavy defeat then i know you are lying. you sound disappointed, which if you step back and think about it, was not even a feasible reaction before the game because we all thought we were already out. tie done. no chance at all. not even with 5 minutes to go.

    we didn't even expect to be in that position and it's ludicrous to label it as 'bottling'. that's just nuts. what was unacceptable was the performance in the first leg and throwing the whole tie away after 20 mins with absolutely no show of right or retaliation in front of our own fans. that was a low and left everyone feeling less than proud.

    going out on away goals, rather than a pounding, getting an important win before travelling to swansea are two very important things right now. or, we can just sit here and cry all the way to may instead of hoping for some sort of miracle to happen. because seriously, without that, what have we got as supporters?

    there is no shame in taking a bit of pride from a victory. that is still allowed y'know. it's become a rare thing but it still happens occasionally.
    We will have to agree to disagree mate. Of course I'm glad we didn't get thumped, but I don't think we in any sense outplayed or outfought bayern. We've grown very comfortable with this 'Glorious Loser' / underdog tag (thanks to le boss) and I thought there was a palpable lack of nerve in the last five mins. When it was really up for grabs, we barely managed to get the ball in their box.

    Lets see where we are in a couple of games, but I just don't see anything in that performance to get excited about. Sorry, I just don't get it. And as for what we've got as supporters? Well, all many of us have got is the hope that someone is going to come in and get rid of the dross and mediocrity that wenger has saddled us with. This result is only likely to prolong the agony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBK View Post
    I accept that - but for me it added a little context. Older or not - Giroud has come from a weaker, less physical league - and it is his first season. I'm not saying he is RVP quality, but I think he is suffering from our disillusionment at RVP being sold. He tries hard enough, and he's not stunk the place up - and he's only 2 behind our 100K player in the league. Personally, I'd go for other scapegoats - starting with the manager.
    i wouldn't go as far as placing him as a scapegoat at all, i just think that he isn't of the calibre we need as our main man to get back into the top four at minimum. the effort cannot be disputed at all and as you say it is his first season so there is room for improvement of course. personally i would have loved to have seen podolski in the centre this season, which was another crazy decision by the manager although lukas has still managed a very decent return from out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    Can't blame our center forwards for today, our midfield was shocking. Probably the worst arsenal midfield I've seen in over 15 years.
    It's bloody awful and your right about that too. Giroud doesn't stand a chance if he's getting nothing fed through. He needs really good service to get goals and he got very little tonight besides two Theo crosses and another chance in the box that he should have passed instead of falling over.

    There is no cohesion in that midfield. It's awful and Arteta needs a bench. Pisses me off to see him run away from the ball all the time when our CB's are trying to find an outlet. Cazorla is as bad and plays in patches. Rosicky was really off his game tonight. Ramsey was Ramsey and has no idea what he's doing. Has no sense of positioning and runs around chasing shadows. It's terrible and we've tried all sorts of combinations but we really need to try someone else as DM because Arteta hides way too much and is hardly on the ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBK View Post
    Like for the first goal, you mean? Interesting that he's scored 3 more than RVP did in his first season with us - with a considerably worse MF behind him. As for the long range shot he's being criticised for - did anyone see any of the shite shots fired in by the Bayern players? Not fair to pillory him for that. How many shots did our most expensive player even attempt?
    RVP was what 20 when he arrived, Giroud is 26.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm View Post
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    Eh? Jenkinson was alright but he didnt do much. That was all about Koselny. If vermealen never plays another game for arsenal it will be too soon.

    But what about the midfield playing way better without wilshere? GW
    Last edited by BOBN; 13-03-2013 at 10:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOBN View Post
    Eh? Jenkinson was alright but he didnt do much. That was all about Koselny. If vermealen plays another game for arsenal it will be too soon.

    But what about the midfield playing way better without wilshere? GW

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    Quote Originally Posted by RomfordPele View Post
    We will have to agree to disagree mate. Of course I'm glad we didn't get thumped, but I don't think we in any sense outplayed or outfought bayern. We've grown very comfortable with this 'Glorious Loser' / underdog tag (thanks to le boss) and I thought there was a palpable lack of nerve in the last five mins. When it was really up for grabs, we barely managed to get the ball in their box.

    Lets see where we are in a couple of games, but I just don't see anything in that performance to get excited about. Sorry, I just don't get it. And as for what we've got as supporters? Well, all many of us have got is the hope that someone is going to come in and get rid of the dross and mediocrity that wenger has saddled us with. This result is only likely to prolong the agony.
    i just think amidst all the misery of this season you still have to take some sort of positives out where you can to keep your head above water to keep watching.

    we didn't out play them but the result is all that counts. we've all grown tired of dominating games and getting nothing. i'm not about to fly the flag and boast to everyone we turned over bayern valiantly but i can certainly take some pride in the fact we gave far more than expected, even if it wasn't good enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga View Post
    RVP was what 20 when he arrived, Giroud is 26.
    See above...
    Putting the laughter back into manslaughter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz View Post
    i just think amidst all the misery of this season you still have to take some sort of positives out where you can to keep your head above water to keep watching.

    we didn't out play them but the result is all that counts. we've all grown tired of dominating games and getting nothing. i'm not about to fly the flag and boast to everyone we turned over bayern valiantly but i can certainly take some pride in the fact we gave far more than expected, even if it wasn't good enough.
    Bayern's first defeat in 24 games and also an end to their 11 game winning streak.

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    You've got to take a bit of pride in beating Bayern at their own gaff.

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