Or you can look at it another way. We came through our tough run of fixtures and are sitting joint top. Now the 'easy' run of fixtures will come up, hopefully we can push on back to winning ways.Originally Posted by IBK
Or you can look at it another way. We came through our tough run of fixtures and are sitting joint top. Now the 'easy' run of fixtures will come up, hopefully we can push on back to winning ways.
Well no not really, even if it had been given we could have still missed it or had it saved, so he wasn't robbed at all.
Flavour of the month Costa missed on last week.
chelsea should have been down to 9 men and we should have had a penalty. there is no guarantee we would score the penalty but we should have played at least half an hour against 9 men, chances are we would have scored then. its a fair assessment to say mike dean robbed AW of his greatest chance to beat mourinho by being an incompetent cheating fuck
im not saying we played well either, we didn't, we were the better side just imo but both sides were awful but if the referee actually enforced the laws of the game, we probably would have won. and also, i know we failed to break down chelsea, but why did they not fail to break us down? mourinho has gone to 3 big games this season, spurs united and us and drawn all 3 because he played for a draw in all of them. for such a great manager, thats fucking awful
How often do you see teams down to 9 men? We see decisions like this every day of the week (the Mikel one wasn't a red IMO I agree with Neville, when you look at the other angle), I wish people would stop whining about it (we hear this almost every week on here now) and address the bigger issue, our inability to beat the big teams.
If we'd done our job properly decisions would be irrelevant, the fact is once again we couldn't do it, this has been going on for as long as I can remember.
Also this is Mourinho's first half season back (same with Pellegrino and Moyes btw), he hasn't been in charge of the club for over a decade so it does take time to create the team in your own image.
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Theo didn't sell it very well tbh. It was one of those where contact was made but the player didn't decide quickly enough whether to go down or try and play on as he was in a decent-ish position. In the end it looked obvious that the reaction was forced but saying that, it would have been a freekick outside the box all day long.
Refs.
i don't think its whining when asking for the referee to do his job properly. every arsenal fan has pretty much said we were shit last night but the referee was just as poor. look at the city game, 2 goals incorrectly ruled out for offside. we can only do so much but if the referees fail to do theirs, then you can't do much about it.
its a clear red card, he broke artetas shin pad ffs. to break a shin pad means you have gone in with excessive force. did he get the ball? no. was he in control? no. did he use excessive force? yes. thats a red card however you look at it.
and you say our ability to beat big teams, yes so far this season its been mixed on that front. napoli, liverpool, dortmund and spurs all beaten, united, city, chelsea not beaten. mixed bag however chelsea have one win in 4 against the big teams, (unless you include bayern in the super cup in which case its one win in 5) city away record is poor this year and they have to go to the to the top 8 in the second half the season. all their home games are done by january except for chelsea. thats going to be tough.
i stand by what I've said all season, these games decide nothing. we've played city, chelsea, liverpool, united, spurs, everton so far and are above all of them bar liverpool. for a team that can't perform in big games, we have to be doing something right to be above 18 other teams on christmas day. you asked for a team that spent money, competed for trophies and didn't just think the top four is a trophy. you have that this season, why spend so much time being down about and moaning? why not just enjoy it?
Nah, look at it again, it's not the initial contact, but he takes his leg from under him following through.Theo didn't sell it very well tbh. It was one of those where contact was made but the player didn't decide quickly enough whether to go down or try and play on as he was in a decent-ish position. In the end it looked obvious that the reaction was forced but saying that, it would have been a freekick outside the box all day long.
Refs.
100% penalty, and Theo wasn't 'selling' anything.
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I'm happy with a point because a defeat would have killed us mentally. Last season we would have lost that 1-0.
It doesn't tell us anything we didn't already know about this season. We need a striker in January.
It's a huge month.
How much does Wenger want it?
It wasn't a natural landing. In real time it looked forced so I can understand why Mr Bean didn't give it. It was only when you slowed it down that you saw what happened and the level of contact in the tackle.
it was a penalty but you see worse not given and non penalties given. Still doesnt explain the lack of chances for the rest of the game.
But as you said earlier, we are still top so not all bad. I know people say Liverpool are a one man team but our dip in form seens to coincide with ramseys dip. Giroud has only scored in one in the last 10 league games I think, which is awful.
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