New manager

[Niall_Quinn]

You havent said anything that makes sense. Things have changed?, Well yes they have Im fatter round the waist than 10 years ago, . So what. Has anything stayed the same in the last 10 years, Cars, weather.?. Instead of making points you play with words. Arteta`s not quick but he has legs, has pace......
Tell me did Wenger negotiate the new commercial deals?. Its another reason to keep him no doubt.

Or it's possible you genuinely can't see it, in which case your posts are understandable.

Wenger's remit, keep us near the top, keep us in the CL, keep the transfer budget to close on zero. Which helps, keep the stadium full, keeps the commercial deals coming in. All boxes ticked without even one slip-up. Now the next phase is go and build a top squad to compete with the very best in Europe. Or get Owen Coyle, I can't recall, it was one of those.

PS. Owen Coyle is mentioned because some people hilariously suggested him and it's just funny. He's mentioned for comedy value. I can say David Moyes if you like that better.

[Neo Reloaded]

I can see both sides of the argument....

No one can doubt what Wenger has done on little resources.

However there are other managers who can do a good job too....Martinez would be my choice - tactically clever, hungry for success, has worked on limited budgets and PL experienced

[Globalgunner]

Or it's possible you genuinely can't see it, in which case your posts are understandable.

Wenger's remit, keep us near the top, keep us in the CL, keep the transfer budget to close on zero. Which helps, keep the stadium full, keeps the commercial deals coming in. All boxes ticked without even one slip-up. Now the next phase is go and build a top squad to compete with the very best in Europe. Or get Owen Coyle, I can't recall, it was one of those.

PS. Owen Coyle is mentioned because some people hilariously suggested him and it's just funny. He's mentioned for comedy value. I can say David Moyes if you like that better.

Keep us near the top. Euphemism for 4th. We are in complete agreement there, Where we differ is that Wenger isnt the only one who can do it with the 4th highest wage bill and 3rd highest pay packet in the PL. Your dedication to keep Wenger is the job is endearing but irrational. We will likely do just as well or better with another astute manager

We existed, flourished even without Wenger we will do so without him

[Ollie the Optimist]

Keep us near the top. Euphemism for 4th. We are in complete agreement there, Where we differ is that Wenger isnt the only one who can do it with the 4th highest wage bill and 3rd highest pay packet in the PL. Your dedication to keep Wenger is the job is endearing but irrational. We will likely do just as well or better with another astute manager

We existed, flourished even without Wenger we will do so without him

don't think thats quite true. before Arsene, we would win stuff for 2/3 years, then nothing for long periods of time. I think from 1940 to 1990 we won something like 7 trophies. Arsene won that in 6 years. Never have we performed at such a consistently high level (by that i mean top four) before.
We had good periods in our history but they were only 2-4 years long. While not saying that without Arsene that will happen again, i think it is fair to say we have never hit such high levels before him.

[Globalgunner]

don't think thats quite true. before Arsene, we would win stuff for 2/3 years, then nothing for long periods of time. I think from 1940 to 1990 we won something like 7 trophies. Arsene won that in 6 years. Never have we performed at such a consistently high level (by that i mean top four) before.
We had good periods in our history but they were only 2-4 years long. While not saying that without Arsene that will happen again, i think it is fair to say we have never hit such high levels before him.

Apart from the top 4 trophy, what pray tell, have we won in the last 9 years

George Graham has won about the same number of trophies as Wenger, including a European trophy. So wheres the the beef

[Niall_Quinn]

Keep us near the top. Euphemism for 4th. We are in complete agreement there, Where we differ is that Wenger isnt the only one who can do it with the 4th highest wage bill and 3rd highest pay packet in the PL. Your dedication to keep Wenger is the job is endearing but irrational. We will likely do just as well or better with another astute manager

We existed, flourished even without Wenger we will do so without him

We? It almost sounds like you consider yourself an insider and Wenger an outsider.

Euphemism for £30-£40mill per annum over 17 years which is probably over half a billion quid. Handy.

We certainly did exist throughout the grey years before success came back to the club. First Graham then Wenger. Yes, I acknowledge we have had more than one manager, though I can't recall ever denying it.

But grey is where we were bound again without a major restructuring of the club. Job done. Sack the manager and call him a cunt on his way out. Classy, WE are.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Apart from the top 4 trophy, what pray tell, have we won in the last 9 years

George Graham has won about the same number of trophies as Wenger, including a European trophy. So wheres the the beef

but if you look at our league positions under him they were all over the place. won the league in 91, finished 10th the next season followed by 4th/12th/5th.

If you read my post you will see i talk about consistency. Under Arsene so far, the lowest we have finished is fourth. In 18 years. Never have we done that before. I think i saw a stat last week saying that before Arsene, in 92 seasons we had finished in the top four 20 something times.

[Niall_Quinn]

don't think thats quite true. before Arsene, we would win stuff for 2/3 years, then nothing for long periods of time. I think from 1940 to 1990 we won something like 7 trophies. Arsene won that in 6 years. Never have we performed at such a consistently high level (by that i mean top four) before.
We had good periods in our history but they were only 2-4 years long. While not saying that without Arsene that will happen again, i think it is fair to say we have never hit such high levels before him.

You underestimating how invigorating the long away trips on British Fail to Middlesbro to see a slaughter in a mud bath (before the match began), standing in the rain in an uncovered terrace and trying to hold the diarrhoea caused by the half time pie and then getting beaten up and having your laces nicked by police for no(ish) reason really were. Mind you, it only cost £3 (plus bail).

[Globalgunner]

We? It almost sounds like you consider yourself an insider and Wenger an outsider.

Euphemism for £30-£40mill per annum over 17 years which is probably over half a billion quid. Handy.

We certainly did exist throughout the grey years before success came back to the club. First Graham then Wenger. Yes, I acknowledge we have had more than one manager, though I can't recall ever denying it.

But grey is where we were bound again without a major restructuring of the club. Job done. Sack the manager and call him a cunt on his way out. Classy, WE are.

You're back to playing with words instead of making points again. Affecting oneness with the club is now an issue for people that you routinely accuse of hating the club.
Get through to this point. The club is not Wenger and Wenger is not the club. You need to climb that hill, then you can get back to being an Arsenal supporter.

Gotta go now

[Niall_Quinn]

You're back to playing with words instead of making points again. Affecting oneness with the club is now an issue for people that you routinely accuse of hating the club.
Get through to this point. The club is not Wenger and Wenger is the club. You need to climb that hill, then you can get back to being an Arsenal supporter.

Gotta go now

I made a half billion quid point to counter your non-point about the club commercials having nothing to do with Wenger.

You drifted off into "WE" territory so I commented on that too