The "Where is the Fabregas thread" thread

[Syn]

Khedira looked decent when he came on last night.

He is also fat.

true. Unsure what to make of him. He's available if Wenger wants him.

[I am invisible]

Yeah, I'm not really sure what to make of Fat Sami either? To be fair, he looks energetic enough for a big lad, and he's a pretty good ball-winner, but every time I see him play he's always charging about all over the pitch, with someone else staying back, and I'm not sure if that would work for us or not? I suppose if we're playing 4231, then you could get away with having a couple of B2B midfielders who take it turns to go forward and mop up, but I'm not really sure if his output in the final third is good enough for that kind of role? Could he play more of a disciplined holding role if we needed him to, or is it just not in his nature to stay put?

[Power n Glory]

Ramsey and Ozil have done more for Arsenal than Cesc ever did. We have a trophy to our name and they don't f*ck off to formula 1 when the teams in the heat of battle.

However, Cesc is still a wonderful player and would have added brilliant depth to our squad.

All three players have won the FA Cup so that's not entirely true. But I hope we push on achieve more from here on out.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

FA cup 2005 was more down to the invincibles than Cesc.

When they fucked off Cesc done nothing for us all those years.

Ozil and Ramsey come in and win us a trophy.

[Syn]

Yeah, I'm not really sure what to make of Fat Sami either? To be fair, he looks energetic enough for a big lad, and he's a pretty good ball-winner, but every time I see him play he's always charging about all over the pitch, with someone else staying back, and I'm not sure if that would work for us or not? I suppose if we're playing 4231, then you could get away with having a couple of B2B midfielders who take it turns to go forward and mop up, but I'm not really sure if his output in the final third is good enough for that kind of role? Could he play more of a disciplined holding role if we needed him to, or is it just not in his nature to stay put?

Maybe fantasy football points aren't his thing but every time I've seen him he is good when he attacks. He's another one of the Germans who knows the score - isn't wasteful and picks the right option 9 times out of 10. I'm guessing his fitness is the biggest issue. We need someone who is going to play 32+ league games, missing only a few games for suspension or rest, and he had a big injury last season.

Might be some value in playing 2 box-to-box midfielders. You'd think Ramsey and Khedira are clever and disciplined enough to make it work. But Ramsey in a 'freer' role has already been shown to be a winning formula, would prefer to keep that going.

[Power n Glory]

FA cup 2005 was more down to the invincibles than Cesc.

When they fucked off Cesc done nothing for us all those years.

Ozil and Ramsey come in and win us a trophy.

True, but it’s still a trophy and it was against Man Utd. We finally broke the trophy draught but it was against Hull and we struggled. It’s pretty even if you ask me. Also, if we’d have dropped out of the top 4 during those years, I don’t think we’d be seeing the sort of sponsorship deals that now allows us to bring in players like Ozil.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

2006: Cesc = nothing
2007: Cesc = nothing
2008: Cesc = nothing
2009: Cesc = nothing
2010: Cesc = nothing

2013 Ozil comes in and Ramsey goes into beast mode

2013: Ozil + Ramsey = trophy drought ends

No contest tbh

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Yeah, I'm not really sure what to make of Fat Sami either? To be fair, he looks energetic enough for a big lad, and he's a pretty good ball-winner, but every time I see him play he's always charging about all over the pitch, with someone else staying back, and I'm not sure if that would work for us or not? I suppose if we're playing 4231, then you could get away with having a couple of B2B midfielders who take it turns to go forward and mop up, but I'm not really sure if his output in the final third is good enough for that kind of role? Could he play more of a disciplined holding role if we needed him to, or is it just not in his nature to stay put?

That could probably be said of Pogba too perhaps....and there seem to be little reservation about him.

[mastermind84]

Ramsey and Ozil have done more for Arsenal than Cesc ever did. We have a trophy to our name and they don't f*ck off to formula 1 when the teams in the heat of battle.

However, Cesc is still a wonderful player and would have added brilliant depth to our squad.

powerful

Ozil’s just as undisciplined in his movement but that hasn’t hampered Ramsey. His movement is unorthodox and he floats away from the centre when playing for us, but that doesn’t reduce Ramsey to a grunt player sweeping up after him. I disagree with that point. It’s not impossible for them all to play together. Either way, he’s gone to another club and we need a more influential player in the midfield. In the final third we can make things happen but we can struggle to get a foothold in the game when passing from the back. If we’re not going for another CM we need to do better in the DM position.

right, Ozil is undisciplined in his defending hence why he plays higher up the pitch. Ozil>Cesc as well.

And the point I was making about Ramsey's role is when you try to fit all 3 into the team, which is what some of you desired.


Buy William Carvalho, and none of you will ever talk about Cesc again.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

So many comments on here about Cesc that I disagree with, I don't know where to begin.