Rosicky and Campbell won't see any game time after complaining in public about their lack of playing time. Walcott benched for not signing a new deal and he's not the first to receive that sort of treatment. It was the same for Lauren, Wiltord and Edu years back. He can be petty.Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
The likelihood of Ivan and Stan following Wenger out the door when gone is wishful thinking.
Rosicky has gone as a player, it's clutching at straws to believe he could have any kind of impact for us
Dropping contract rebels is one of the few things I applaud Wenger for, why should you give game time to someone not committed to the club (Wiltord, Edu and Lauren not big misses for us) and Walcott signed a new contract.
It's also wishful thinking to suggest things will get better when Wenger goes, another demagogue will be given far too much authority.
Id like to think I'm wrong and that Gazidis will reign the next man in but I'm not going to hold my breath
Why not when he was able to make an impact last season? Have you seen the current midfield and how they're playing?
As for the contract situation, it's called cutting your nose to spite your face. We create the stand off situation with the low wages offer.
Also, whether these guys make an impact or not is a side issue, we're talking about Wenger being a 'dictator' and controlling. He has two sides to him and I don't think there is anyone in the club that can talk any sense into him because he's so stubborn. That's the issue. As a sportsman, he should know he's doing a poor job but he's so delusional, he shifts the standards of success to suit his own accomplishments. The 4th place trophy is an example.
Wenger's successor will not be given unequivocal control. He is the last of a dying breed of manager.
The new manager will need to deliver on the pitch immediately, he won't have sentiment to protect him like Wenger does.
The only evidence you have of Wenger being a dictator are things every other manager in the game does, where my example of the board being as culpable as Wenger for Wenger was clearly evidenced by Chips Keswick. There is no internal criticism, they either back him or turn the other way and whistle nonchalantly.
I don't know what makes you believe there is suddenly going to be a hands on approach.
Or even that they are capable of appointing a successor without either consulting Wenger or begging him to stay until 2020
Wenger is entwined into the fabric of the club. He has worked himself into this position, he's a managerial anomaly. No other coach in the world has a reign over the non-coaching aspect of a club like he does. He hired his own CEO FFS.
I don't believe the new guy is going to be given additional responsibilities, it doesn't make any business sense, why would they entrust someone unproven in those areas? I also doubt coaches these days are keen for that level of control - I read the other day Pep Guardiola has as many as 20 people to delegate with for various matters on and off the pitch, that's supposedly the best manager in the world. This is the type of structure you find at most clubs now, the game has moved on.
I don't mind if Wenger is consulted on his successor, I just want there to be a clear distinction between board and manager. Gazidis and the rest of the board live in the shadows, maybe when Wenger is gone they will start to earn their money because they'd do well to find someone like Wenger again, and if they do, then god help us all.
Last edited by Marc Overmars; 10-11-2014 at 05:50 PM.
A dictator gives the wrong impression. He’s a control freak and there is enough evidence of that.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/...senal-training
This is worth a read.
Gilberto Silva, the Brazilian who played for Arsenal as a defensive midfielder between 2002 and 2008, agrees. "The suggestion of outside help to coach players is made by people who don't know what happens at the club," he says. "Arsène never delegated things totally to his assistants. He was always watching things pitch-side, more than often coming in to talk about things to change. He never tried to reinvent the wheel or kept yapping at the players, because footballers don't like to be bossed around."This is where things get tricky. We have no real football people on the Board so I don’t know exactly what they can tell Wenger to do to improve results. If he’s stubborn and dismissive on ex players, I can’t imagine him taking to heart any suggestions from our men in suits upstairs. Also, do you really want a situation like what’s happened over at Spurs, Liverpool, Newcastle and even Chelsea? Interference from upstairs can be counterproductive. It should be the Boards job to support the manager with the resources he needs and then the manager takes it from there.Despite Arsenal's now-perennially leaky defence Winterburn states that Wenger's philosophy is not to drill his back four separately. "No. Arsène Wenger's training is all about possession of the football, movement of the football and support of one another. Then he really expects you to be able, when you lose the ball, to organise yourself and dictate to players around you in what areas you want the opposition to go," he says.
Step back with dignity accept your time is over , you gave us great times but your time has past. A new regime is the only answer.
You don't need to be knowledgable at football to know that a man shouldn't be responsible for hiring his own boss.
He has the power and authority because it was blindly given to him
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