West Ham away (PL) Match Reaction Thread

[fakeyank]

If you showed Wenger that he'd find an excuse, like bad decisions, injuries, too many games etc etc.

Wenger is a great one for stats except the ones that really matter.

You want to know Wengers excuse (assuming Leicester win the title)? "We beat Leicester home and away last season, so we are not far away. Injuries did not help us as Cazorla, Rosicky and Welbeck were not available for almost the entire campaign. If we have fully fit squad to chose from in the new season, we will make top top effort."

He may also add our statistic of going the last 8-9 games unbeaten towards the end of this season. I know there are still games left but with the pressure off, I can see us going on a run. If inevitably we do, add some shit about that to the above part as well.

Rinse. Repeat.

[Özim]

You want to know Wengers excuse (assuming Leicester win the title)? "We beat Leicester home and away last season, so we are not far away. Injuries did not help us as Cazorla, Rosicky and Welbeck were not available for almost the entire campaign. If we have fully fit squad to chose from in the new season, we will make top top effort."

He may also add our statistic of going the last 8-9 games unbeaten towards the end of this season. I know there are still games left but with the pressure off, I can see us going on a run. If inevitably we do, add some shit about that to the above part as well.

Rinse. Repeat.

Pretty much spot on, he always harps on about the unbeaten runs when the season is as good as over, in his eyes they're proof of our quality, he just ignores everything that has gone on before it.

Agree about the Leicester results too, he probably thinks we can go toe to toe with them because we beat them twice and only bad luck denied us.

[Power n Glory]

But that's the point, we didn't go for the players.....that's what Dein was saying that he used to try and persuade Wenger to go for signings that he needed but more often than not Wenger would prevaricate and end up doing nothing.

This is what i mean by crying for the moon, when Dein was still at the club, the signings that might have cost the club more just didn't happen. Yes there were implications of cost in regards to moving to the stadium, but also Wenger himself used to worry and worry about making big signings.

Where did Dein say that? I’m not talking about signing massive star players either. Just the basics of what this team require and not going into the season without adequate cover. There was a difference to how we went about our business.

Dein was there when we went for Campbell, Wiltord, Pires, Giberto, Rosicky and we didn’t dither. We just went in and got them.

[Letters]

Signings cant and wont help Wenger.

This man is as clueless as it gets regarding tactics and motivation. If it came down to it, I am sure he cannot motivate a pack of hungry lions to go for a hunt..

Well, that's obviously bollox as since we've had folding money to spend we've won 2 FA Cups. Had we signed a top striker last summer I think we'd have been champions this season.
Definitely a lot closer. But he does need a strong captain out there as motivation has never been his forte.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

You want to know Wengers excuse (assuming Leicester win the title)? "We beat Leicester home and away last season, so we are not far away. Injuries did not help us as Cazorla, Rosicky and Welbeck were not available for almost the entire campaign. If we have fully fit squad to chose from in the new season, we will make top top effort."

He may also add our statistic of going the last 8-9 games unbeaten towards the end of this season. I know there are still games left but with the pressure off, I can see us going on a run. If inevitably we do, add some shit about that to the above part as well.

Rinse. Repeat.

Of course but by the same token I defy you find any manager who is going to say "well I'm putting my hands up to this, Leicester had a fantastic season and showed amazing consistency but there is no excusing the fact that we did the double over them and yet finished so far behind them. The players went into certain games just assuming that they had to turn up to win and we ended up losing because I did very little to check that complacency. I did not rotate my squad well so we managed to pick up a lot of injuries as well. I have instilled in my team a sense of victimisation when decisions don't go for us failing to see that's exactly why Chelsea have performed so badly this season. But most importantly I did not spend money on an outfield player when it was sensible to do so preferring to rely on players who are well past their best and prone to injury out of a sense of loyalty. The fact is at 66 it is untenable for me to try and manage every aspect of the club from a football sense, and it's clear that my coaching staff are not being given a free hand to do their jobs and my scouting team have long past their sell by date".

[Letters]

Pretty much spot on, he always harps on about the unbeaten runs when the season is as good as over, in his eyes they're proof of our quality, he just ignores everything that has gone on before it.

Agree about the Leicester results too, he probably thinks we can go toe to toe with them because we beat them twice and only bad luck denied us.

Yeah! Wenger's a ****! What a ****! He's such a ****!



Am I doing this right?

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Well, that's obviously bollox as since we've had folding money to spend we've won 2 FA Cups. Had we signed a top striker last summer I think we'd have been champions this season.
Definitely a lot closer. But he does need a strong captain out there as motivation has never been his forte.

If you are linking what we've spent to the FA cup success than its cost us £140 million over two seasons to get those FA cups. And actually I'm not convinced a striker on its own would have done it for us.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Where did Dein say that? I’m not talking about signing massive star players either. Just the basics of what this team require and not going into the season without adequate cover. There was a difference to how we went about our business.

Dein was there when we went for Campbell, Wiltord, Pires, Giberto, Rosicky and we didn’t dither. We just went in and got them.

I could give you an even bigger list of the players we didn't sign when Dein was there.

Partly for financial reasons partly because of Wenger dithering. He was a ditherer when Dein was there and he's a ditherer now that Dein has gone and there isn't a great deal of difference. Or did I just imagine us going into the season 2005/2006 having not replaced Vieira?.

[Letters]

Better players help you in big games, we had 8 years of 'austerity', the minute we started signing players like Ozil then Sanchez we started winning trophies about.
It might have been a co-incidence, I guess, but big players clearly help, as would a striker have this year - we're not scoring enough goals so obviously that would have helped. Would it have been enough? Dunno, maybe not, but it was top of most people's shopping lists for last summer.

[Özim]

Yeah! Wenger's a ****! What a ****! He's such a ****!



Am I doing this right?

It's not my fault he's always full of excuses and points to the ridiculous at to why we're good enough, short unbeaten runs at the end of the season when we're out of everything don't prove a lot, they only prove we can perform when the pressure is off which is no solution to our problems of lacking bottle at the business end of the season.

Maybe you should start looking at Wenger and they way he handles himself rather than going off on one, he uses the same material every season and every season it goes wrong, you tell me why he never learns his lesson....is it because he's a bumbling idiot after all?

I really don't understand how someone can be so blinkered for so long and never learns from mistakes and yet is supposedly super intelligent, do you?