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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog Toffee View Post
    THE best. Bergkamp didnt have his pace, power, goalscoring/assist record, Hence Bergkamp<Henry.
    Where did Bergkamp come from?

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    Henry didn't miss 'loads of sitters' relative to the goals he scored.

    And there's a difference between having a good shot and missing (which is what top strikers do) compared to choking under the pressure (Henry CL final 2006, and Walcott every other game, for example).
    As a striker, Henry would get more chances to score even if he missed an early chance. The team are always looking to feed him the ball and he'd probably take more shots in goal than anyone else in the team. Theo rarely gets those one on one chances and in most cases, he finishes them if he's coming in on his right foot. It was the same for his first goal for us against Chelsea and it was the same for that one on one he scored in the Champs League.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kljepl6Ierk

    Watch the difference between Walcott when he's coming in from the centre or left on his right foot and when he's coming in from the right on his right foot. Watch from 30' from when he takes on the Blackburn players on the right and curls his shot wide and on to 49' where he's on the left then lifts and bends it around the keeper. That's the difference I'm talking about. To score that Blackburn goal, Theo would have had to gone for a power shot and not a side footer finesse shot. Fifa and Pro Evo players should know what I mean. He'd have to start hitting low drive shots with the lace or outside of the boot like the goal we saw last season when he broke the net. That's difficult and I rarely see many midfield players get those sort of goals. The keeper can always get a touch on those sort of shots but when your bending it around him, he has no chance. Ade and Henry used to bend it around the keeper all the time.

    Any who....that's my case. Look at Henry and Ade's goal compilations and see how many goals they scored approaching from the right side and on their weaker foot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ach View Post
    Where did Bergkamp come from?

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    Bergkamp came from Holland. Everyone knows that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog Toffee View Post
    Bergkamp came from Holland. Everyone knows that.
    We bought him from Italy tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    As a striker, Henry would get more chances to score even if he missed an early chance. The team are always looking to feed him the ball and he'd probably take more shots in goal than anyone else in the team. Theo rarely gets those one on one chances and in most cases, he finishes them if he's coming in on his right foot. It was the same for his first goal for us against Chelsea and it was the same for that one on one he scored in the Champs League.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kljepl6Ierk

    Watch the difference between Walcott when he's coming in from the centre or left on his right foot and when he's coming in from the right on his right foot. Watch from 30' from when he takes on the Blackburn players on the right and curls his shot wide and on to 49' where he's on the left then lifts and bends it around the keeper. That's the difference I'm talking about. To score that Blackburn goal, Theo would have had to gone for a power shot and not a side footer finesse shot. Fifa and Pro Evo players should know what I mean. He'd have to start hitting low drive shots with the lace or outside of the boot like the goal we saw last season when he broke the net. That's difficult and I rarely see many midfield players get those sort of goals. The keeper can always get a touch on those sort of shots but when your bending it around him, he has no chance. Ade and Henry used to bend it around the keeper all the time.

    Any who....that's my case. Look at Henry and Ade's goal compilations and see how many goals they scored approaching from the right side and on their weaker foot.
    I agree with your point but he can still only score in one way, 1v1 against the keeper coming in from the left. Anything else and he usually chokes. It doesn't matter what his preferred position is, if he doesn't add variety he will be stuck in the position he is now. As you said, Henry preferred cutting in from the left and shooting but he could still score from any side of the box at any angle should he need to; Walcott can't.

    He'll never be able to belt in a 20 yarder or win headers in the box. His weaker foot is abysmal.

    Granted he can put in a good cross (at times) even though we don't have anyone to take advantage of that.

    I want to see a change from him given that he has potential to be used as a proper game changer for us but I still can't understand the calls for him to play up front when there's less space, he has no close control and would be easily marked out of the game by any top notch defender.

    Wing forward is the best position from him but he really needs to improve his performances or he'll be out of the first team as soon as AOC is ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boss View Post
    I agree with your point but he can still only score in one way, 1v1 against the keeper coming in from the left. Anything else and he usually chokes. It doesn't matter what his preferred position is, if he doesn't add variety he will be stuck in the position he is now. As you said, Henry preferred cutting in from the left and shooting but he could still score from any side of the box at any angle should he need to; Walcott can't.

    He'll never be able to belt in a 20 yarder or win headers in the box. His weaker foot is abysmal.

    Granted he can put in a good cross (at times) even though we don't have anyone to take advantage of that.

    I want to see a change from him given that he has potential to be used as a proper game changer for us but I still can't understand the calls for him to play up front when there's less space, he has no close control and would be easily marked out of the game by any top notch defender.

    Wing forward is the best position from him but he really needs to improve his performances or he'll be out of the first team as soon as AOC is ready.
    You mean like when Theo has chipped the keeper or taken it with his left foot? Henry came here and has said himself that he had to relearn how to become a striker. He wasn't that confident on his left foot and he was never any good in the air. The Barca miss in the final is a prime example, if that had been on the right, I'd have been confident he'd finish, but on the left, he was never that confident. He could score from that side, but he was never as consistent on that foot or side compared to the right.

    It's the same for RVP. On his left foot, you see the confidence but only over the past few seasons, he's started using his 'chocolate' leg and you'd never see him lace one in with his right like how he does with his left.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTebxpuryvI

    Here is Henry's goal compilation. A great variety of goals like you said, but the bulk are from him wrapping them around the keeper with his right foot. Even the belted shots. Wenger should be playing Theo down that same left hand side so he can drift in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    You mean like when Theo has chipped the keeper or taken it with his left foot? Henry came here and has said himself that he had to relearn how to become a striker. He wasn't that confident on his left foot and he was never any good in the air. The Barca miss in the final is a prime example, if that had been on the right, I'd have been confident he'd finish, but on the left, he was never that confident. He could score from that side, but he was never as consistent on that foot or side compared to the right.

    It's the same for RVP. On his left foot, you see the confidence but only over the past few seasons, he's started using his 'chocolate' leg and you'd never see him lace one in with his right like how he does with his left.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTebxpuryvI

    Here is Henry's goal compilation. A great variety of goals like you said, but the bulk are from him wrapping them around the keeper with his right foot. Even the belted shots. Wenger should be playing Theo down that same left hand side so he can drift in.
    You gotta stop with the Henry comparisons to be honest because they're ridiculous.

    You say Henry had to relearn how to play up front and yet he played a handful of matches before scoring and ended up with what was it 26 goals in his first season?

    Also I saw Henry in the World Cup in 98 he was pretty potent even then from the wing, he ended up at Juve not long after based on his performances on top of that. The comparisons with Walcott are laughable, for some odd reason you seem to love this guy and fail to see his shortcomings which are on show pretty much every time he plays.

    He's nothing special and never will be and he doesn't have the talent to be even mentioned in the same breath as Henry, Walcott constantly goes missing and fluffs more chances than one cares to count...and after what over 5 years you'd think he'd be a lot better than he is considering he's apparently a "top talent".

    All he's proved so far is how overrated he is to be honest. I think you'll find a lot of people who wouldn't be too bothered if he left, that's how much he's impressed since he arrived,yes he's English but so what it doesn't make him more special because he is, he should be judged on performances and based on those his career has flopped so far.

    If someone came in and offered 10-12 million for him I'd say take it and re-invest, they won't of course because nobody is particularly interested in a player who never seems to deliver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    You gotta stop with the Henry comparisons to be honest because they're ridiculous.

    You say Henry had to relearn how to play up front and yet he played a handful of matches before scoring and ended up with what was it 26 goals in his first season?

    Also I saw Henry in the World Cup in 98 he was pretty potent even then from the wing, he ended up at Juve not long after based on his performances on top of that. The comparisons with Walcott are laughable, for some odd reason you seem to love this guy and fail to see his shortcomings which are on show pretty much every time he plays.

    He's nothing special and never will be and he doesn't have the talent to be even mentioned in the same breath as Henry, Walcott constantly goes missing and fluffs more chances than one cares to count...and after what over 5 years you'd think he'd be a lot better than he is considering he's apparently a "top talent".

    All he's proved so far is how overrated he is to be honest. I think you'll find a lot of people who wouldn't be too bothered if he left, that's how much he's impressed since he arrived,yes he's English but so what it doesn't make him more special because he is, he should be judged on performances and based on those his career has flopped so far.

    If someone came in and offered 10-12 million for him I'd say take it and re-invest, they won't of course because nobody is particularly interested in a player who never seems to deliver.
    Stop. All you ever post is, 'he's nothing special, he can't do this, can't do that, he's nothing compared to this guy....look mate, if that's how far your analysis goes, then don't bother talking to me. I don't want to hear it because you're repeating the same message without any thought or analysis behind it.

    I see Walcott's faults all day and I see his shortcomings. The difference between me and you is, my analysis doesn't stop there. I can tell that he's stronger at finishing on the right side, which is his strongest foot, his approach to beating players and the types of runs he makes. He's strong in some areas, weak in others and it's why he shouldn't be playing as a right winger. Maybe it's arm chair management, but I don't give a shit. I like talking with people about the tactical side of the game and watching how different players react to certain things and it's the same for all of the Arsenal players I watch. I don't know everything about football but I like to hear what managers and ex players have to say about the tactical side of football. Now, you've said your piece on Walcott and I don't care to hear what else you have to say because it doesn't interest me. If this is how far your analysis goes, then move on. We've got nothing to discuss here.

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    Damn fine post.
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    I think definitive proof of Walcott's ability will be revealed on Friday when FIFA 12 comes out.

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