Some legacy media sources are saying there's no decision to be made because Wenger is determined to stick to his wage policy come what may. Reus is supposedly the emergency replacement for Ozil AND Alexis. Meanwhile the rumours continue that the club is waiting to pick a good moment to announce a new 2 year deal for Wenger.
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They'll be waiting a while.Originally Posted by Noel_Quinn
you think anyone actually cares about facts? foh!
You tell em.
http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/sh...194#post532194
Facts!Alexis at center forward just can't happen. He is only good on the right and honestly you can find good right sided attackers for less than him. Not sure what the solution is for him because he is an idiot instinctive footballer
I said it
I also was the one person advocating him at CF. advocated for it last season and over the summer provided he learned the position more.
You won't quote that because I was right about him playing there and he has gotten better since that match (which was the 0-0 versus Leicester)
What does that have to do with a thread about Özil? Remember when I said Özil is our most influential player? His form has dipped and the team has dipped, you gonna quote that? especially since this thread is about Özil "do we need him" which is being proven incorrect with the last few months of form?
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NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.
Stop lying. You weren't. I was saying in the below thread I've never understood why Sanchez was never given a run up front when replying to AFC Leveller when he said Sanchez should be played through the middle.
http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/sh...923#post503923
Here was your response.
You weren't the one advocate and the thing you've said he shouldn't be doing and can't do (create) is what's helping the players around him now. Over the summer, you went further and said he can't play as striker.It's Sanchez's fault
He a semi thick footballer.
He could be dynamic on the left, right, or at center forward if he stayed away from the build up and stopped chasing the ball. It's why Barcelona got rid of him, imo.
That goal is another example of that but Sanchez is compelled to always run to the ball instead of just staying on the shoulder of the last defender and waiting for the ball.
If you want to get on Wenger, get on him for not instructing that of him.
Wenger tried him at CF last season in 2 or 3 matches in the autumn and he couldn't stop dropping deep and messing up in the build up.
You're not even the first to say Sanchez should play up front. It's a conversation that goes as far back as when IBK used to post on here. See below. It goes even further back because I recall some other posters mentioning it way back when discussing our striker options when Giroud was injured and we signed Welbeck.
http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=3417
I made the below comment.
If he had doubts about Walcott then he should have at least given Sanchez more of a shot there.
You were involved in that thread and said nothing about Sanchez being able to play up front. It's not even an original point because when we first bought Sanchez, Wenger said he could play up front and had him playing there for a short stint. As said before, I've never understood why he wasn't given much game time up front when first arriving. He had a slow start but it's not million miles away from the slow start he's had playing up front this season.
In previous conversations about what sort of striker we need, you kept emphasizing having someone strong enough to hold the ball up. I've kept saying we don't need that. Theo's game against Utd was an example and how Sanchez is playing now is further evidence. Sanchez dropping deep presents a problem for Ozil but it hasn't stopped the creativity. Theo is scoring goals, Ozil is scoring and even Ox is having his best season goal wise. Space opens up when we have a striker that's not so static.
I'm now seeing discussions on what sort of striker works with Ozil and some articles suggesting to even go back to Giroud. Why would we do that? With Sanchez being goal scorer and taking over the chance creation and assist duties from Ozil, isn't this thread and discussion still relevant? Ozil will have to adapt to the circumstances. He's not the most influential player. From midfield, it's still Santi Cazorla. You've also been wrong about Xhaka but that's another topic. So if Ozil isn't the main guy in the final third anymore or the main guy helping us get the ball from the defence into the final third...is he that big an influence on how we play?
The real problem is we spent 17mill (or was it 13mill) on Perez. Should have been 60million on a world class striker to supplement the likes of Ozil and Alexis. And we should have spent another 50mill adding top tier quality to the central midfield. And another 50mill bringing in a wide man who can take on defenders and open a game up. Anyone who thinks we don't have the money to do that should consider we spent 90mill on a bag of average tools. Mustafi is okay, but 33mill? Xhaka can be great but the signs aren't great so far, 34mill? That's just another 30mill shy of the number we could have spent on two players who are the next level up. And then could Arsenal stretch to another 60mill for the striker? Most certainly they'll tell you no, but that's only because of this sustainable nonsense. The eco-friendly club in a football world of prolific polluters - what's the point, beyond setting up a nice collateral vehicle for cowboy Stan? Did you know if you just add one letter to his name it becomes Satan?
Anyway, the reason we aren't competing with clubs like Marketing and Barca and Bayern is not because of Ozil, it's because we don't have enough Ozils. Too much penny-pinching over the years, too little ambition, a readiness to settle for second best and pretend it's some sort of moral triumph. If we have players getting a little lazy and relaxed in such a comfortable environment then I'm not surprised really. Arsenal has become the club you visit for a break between the rigours of real competition. A deckchair and sunglasses club where the more you relax the more people named Ty and Chris Wenger will cheer you. That could be one of the key reasons Alexis is looking to get away. Maybe he's itching to get back to the office after a nice break.
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I wouldn't mind so much if we played him properly once in a while to see what he can do! I do agree about the other, although the money is ridiculous, it's the price a top club has to pay to get the top players. Trouble is, Wenger doesn't agree with overpaying for players, but he just buys a lot for his money instead of quality and he has to keep buying. It would be cheaper to get the quality in the first place.
It doesn't make sense to complain about how much we've spent on players like Perez, Xhaka and Mustafi but at the same time call for the manager to drop £60m on a striker and then another £50m each on a midfielder and wide player. We'd just be shoveling a bigger pile of shit onto the field. He's mismanaged a small budget and he's gone further to mismanage an even bigger budget. We can't trust to spend record sums.
It's taken him an age that a player like Sanchez opens things up for other attackers in the final third and with that part of the jig saw solved, we now have a problem with the midfield again. We'll hop scotch to one problem after the other with Wenger. Forget giving him more money.
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