Is that the bit you're talking about, from the latest article you've offered?“We all had lunch together a couple of weeks ago, and Arsene met Ivan and he likes him. It was important that Arsene Wenger respected his judgement, so to that extent Arsene was involved in the appointment.”
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We don't have to hand over shit. Just stop going to games if you feel so strongly about it. I'd advise the same for everyone else. This isn't some gas or oil company exploiting workers and shafting customers with extortionate prices, and the piblic have no chocie, it's a football club and part of the entertainment business. It's always been easy money but now the pots bigger and we're global. We're paying for a few cheers and bragging rights. Forget protesting, just stop paying for it.
Never going to get loads of fans to do that though, thats the problem, if that was the case loads would have not renewd their season tickets this summer.Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
As long as people are paying for the games they will go no matter how bad it is.
"I really like Arsenal. Do you really like Arsenal, or only Arsenal with trophies?" - Dennis Bergkamp.
"Which Arsenal do they want back, the one Arsene created?" - Tony Adams.
well of course he is going to be involved all managers would be. it be stupid to go "here aw here Ivan and he'll be working with you" deal with it.
But i highgly doub't he was hired on AW' say so. If the board did not want him or agree o him he'd not be there simples.
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"I really like Arsenal. Do you really like Arsenal, or only Arsenal with trophies?" - Dennis Bergkamp.
"Which Arsenal do they want back, the one Arsene created?" - Tony Adams.
In what world do you belong where an internal employee has the final word in the hiring or firing process of a company CEO? Please tell me cos’ I’ll like to know. And why do you have to keep jumping to the extremes every time that Wenger’s a puppet if he’s not leading the board by the nose? Why can’t he just be an employee who sees eye to eye with his employers, but maybe for different reasons? How many times do posters like NQ, JSAO, myself and numerous others here have to repeat ourselves before that point finally sifts thru your skull?
Look FY, contrary to what you believe (or inferred from various articles), it’s not within the scope of Arsene’s role to appoint the CEO of the club. That final decision rests in the hands of the Board of Directors full stop. If Arsene was involved in any way during the consultation process, it was merely a way for the board to determine if the two can work well together; to see if the chemistry was right for a successful team partnership. Get it? Goddamn FOL was right. It’s a waste of time with certain people here.
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There were more articles around that time as to how AW was doing Ken Friars job and actively finding his replacement. I am sure a lot of people will recall that... I will google them myself and get them here..
Yeah I heard it at the time, but it's not credible. A takeover like Stan's doesn't just happen. The ground is laid before and after such an event, often in excruciating detail. Gazidis would have been part of that plan and the plan itself would only make sense if the CEO and the manager could get along. So in that respect I'm sure Wenger influenced the decision, but there's no way he made the decision himself. The media will write any old shit just to fill the column space.
Look at this from the Guardian, which concentrates more on verifiable recent events:
And:Q: Should Alisher Usmanov be granted a seat on the board?
A: The Uzbek billionaire owns a little under 30% of the shares through his Red & White Holdings vehicle but he is something of an outsider. He has sought to ingratiate himself with the fans by proposing a £100m cash injection via a share issue, for spending on new players, and also positioning himself against the concept of the self-sustaining business model. Hence the calls for him to be appointed as a director. But they have been rejected and they continue to be met with resistance, with Hill-Wood speaking of being "comfortable with the constitution of the board" and having no wish to change it. The chairman talked of every director "caring deeply about the long-term future of the club" and wanting "the very best" for it. The suggestion was that Usmanov does not.
You see how this board operates? It makes £22mill profit in the transfer window and then rejects a cash injection on the grounds of sustainability whilst, at the same time, professing their love for the club. How is it not sustainable to reinvest funds raised from transfers? It's not like they have to pull money from elsewhere or, God forbid, their own pockets. What exactly is it they are sustaining? Not results on the pitch, not the trophy count, not the quality in the team. One thing has been sustained very well indeed though - the share price. The previous shareholders have taken the money that should have been invested in the team and they have put it in their own pockets. It's crystal clear, just look at the events and the numbers.Q: Can Arsenal enjoy the success that their supporters crave with the self‑sustaining business model?
A: This question underpins almost every discussion in relation to the club. The fans have long wished to see a greater degree of speculation – on the transfer market – in order to accumulate and they have been concerned at how the Manchester clubs, Chelsea, Liverpool and Tottenham Hotspur have demonstrated their financial clout. There was the call here for an equity injection up to 2014, when Arsenal will be able to renegotiate their major commercial deals, in the hope that it would help to attract some high‑quality players. Yet the members of the board are utterly resolute, believing that living within the club's means is the only way forward. They refuse to mortgage the club's future by spending vast sums on new signings and have placed great faith in the incoming financial fair play rules. The club are working instead to develop revenue streams, with the pre-season tour to east Asia being advanced as one success. They will not consider a short-term injection of capital.
Now Stan states he will be following the same model. That should be at least a little worrying to any Arsenal fan.
Anyway, you won't agree and feel this is somehow all Wenger's doing. So we need to agree to disagree.
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Just read Le Grove. In the AGM meeting, Wenger said he was involved with the decision to raise ticket prices. This guy...
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