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You implied it by accusing me of appeal to authority and "ours is not to reason why". That is you strawmanning me.


Well, he does. Clearly. But that doesn't mean he can't be questioned or criticised.


And from your descriptions they're reasonable ones. See above about how it's reasonable to question or criticise a manager.


Of course, but given your certainty about the first two games and your pre-season prediction last season I wonder why you continue to be so confident. You might be right of course, but I'd suggest two games in is not enough evidence to be sure how this season will pan out. I personally would be surprised if we end up as champions, I'm pretty confident we'll do no worse than third but it's impossible to be definitive after two games.


I had to remind myself but ouch, yes that was awful and I think I'd briefly hopped on the Arteta Out bandwagon. The win vs Chelsea on Boxing Day probably saved him
I'm interested to know what this impending disaster will look like. What in your mind would be acceptable this season? It's surely not the title or bust for you, is it?[/QUOTE]


I think given the money that we’ve spent and the state the other clubs are in, we absolutely should have been looking at winning the title this season yes. City have lost two key players, they have De Bruyne out for months. No nothing in life is a sure thing, but absolutely we should be in the same place Liverpool were in four years ago with the cash we’ve spent.

If you’re serious you will admit that we are no where near that. Despite us being in no worse of a position arguably than Liverpool was when Klopp took over and spent like a drunken sailor to get their single title.