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    This should not even be a cause for debate. A club with any ambition would have dumped this turd 5 years ago. His record of ineptitude is at least 10 years long. From 2000 to 2004 he had a collection of the best players this club has seen and he could only manage 2 leagues and 3 FA cups. with Vieira Henry, Pires et al. Ferguson or Mourinho would have made them a 5 year unstoppable machine. Here we laud him for bringing unprecedented success simply because we never had it before. Sorry but he is now a shambles of a manager, indulged by a rapacious board who seee success only in balance sheets. He is basically incompetent

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    personally i thought wenger was tactically spot on today, good team selection given the pitch. wingers werent effective, so was a good decison to start rosicky. wenger to blame for many loses but not tonight imo, that was the players, who just failed and gave such a poor performance. we had first choice defence there with full backs, good midfield on paper yet the players failed
    I'm completely confused by this statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    personally i thought wenger was tactically spot on today, good team selection given the pitch. wingers werent effective, so was a good decison to start rosicky. wenger to blame for many loses but not tonight imo, that was the players, who just failed and gave such a poor performance. we had first choice defence there with full backs, good midfield on paper yet the players failed
    This was AC Milan, at the San Siro, in the CL knockouts.

    Yet the team turned up and played like it was Wigan at the DW on a Saturday.

    It's a sad indictment on Wenger that he can't even get his players up for a game like this. Yes the players should take a lot of responsibility however this is not the first time we've seen such a an inept performance of this standard, last night was no freak result that's for sure, it was yet another cold reminder and reflection on how far everything has fallen at the club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    personally i thought wenger was tactically spot on today, good team selection given the pitch. wingers werent effective, so was a good decison to start rosicky. wenger to blame for many loses but not tonight imo, that was the players, who just failed and gave such a poor performance. we had first choice defence there with full backs, good midfield on paper yet the players failed
    Tactically spot on? No we were truly awful yesterday, out fought, out thought and thoroughly out played. Look I accept we aren't Man City but last night pretty much showed us that the options in the team let alone squad just aren't good enough. Arsene built the squad and I pretty much hold him fully responsible for the mess we are currently in.

    He's basically built a squad that is not good enough to compete for trophies, simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    This was AC Milan, at the San Siro, in the CL knockouts.

    Yet the team turned up and played like it was Wigan at the DW on a Saturday.

    It's a sad indictment on Wenger that he can't even get his players up for a game like this. Yes the players should take a lot of responsibility however this is not the first time we've seen such a an inept performance of this standard, last night was no freak result that's for sure, it was yet another cold reminder and reflection on how far everything has fallen at the club.
    I kind of agree with Ollie here....probably not so rose-tinted....but it smacked of the Carling Cup Final last year. We just didn't turn up....

    It is partly Wengers fault however, as I think the team struggled to know whether to push forward, or sit back, and in the end did niether. Poor preparation yet again.
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    This was AC Milan, at the San Siro, in the CL knockouts. Yet the team turned up and played like it was Wigan at the DW on a Saturday.

    It's a sad indictment on Wenger that he can't even get his players up for a game like this. Yes the players should take a lot of responsibility however this is not the first time we've seen such a an inept performance of this standard, last night was no freak result that's for sure, it was yet another cold reminder and reflection on how far everything has fallen at the club.
    Exactly and if as a player you can't motivate yourself to play in one of the big stadiums in Europe, then you should walk off yourself tbh, you don't need a manager to motivate you in the CL against Milan.

    We can't always blame Wenger all the time, the players need to take the heat, Its not his fault Theo was shite again or Gibbs was not match fit same with Sagna, It did not help TV 5 is being shite, same with Our DM song and our Keeper is woeful atm. We had Arteta, who showed why he has never played in the cl before, not good enough against the big teams.

    There is big problems at this club and it needs to be sorted out quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Tactically spot on? No we were truly awful yesterday, out fought, out thought and thoroughly out played. Look I accept we aren't Man City but last night pretty much showed us that the options in the team let alone squad just aren't good enough. Arsene built the squad and I pretty much hold him fully responsible for the mess we are currently in.

    He's basically built a squad that is not good enough to compete for trophies, simple as that.
    None of that means he didn't get his tactics right. It was the players and squad which weren't good enough as you say, not necessarily the tactics he employed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    None of that means he didn't get his tactics right. It was the players and squad which weren't good enough as you say, not necessarily the tactics he employed.
    Yeah I see where your coming from but the problem I have is that there didn't seem to be tactics of any sort deployed last night.

    It seemed to me as if Arsene just sent them out to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    Exactly and if as a player you can't motivate yourself to play in one of the big stadiums in Europe, then you should walk off yourself tbh, you don't need a manager to motivate you in the CL against Milan.

    We can't always blame Wenger all the time, the players need to take the heat, Its not his fault Theo was shite again or Gibbs was not match fit same with Sagna, It did not help TV 5 is being shite, same with Our DM song and our Keeper is woeful atm. We had Arteta, who showed why he has never played in the cl before, not good enough against the big teams.

    There is big problems at this club and it needs to be sorted out quick.
    Well actually, it kind of is still wengers fault.

    Theo playing shite again is the result of wenger giving him a free pass and playing him every week regardless of form.
    Gibbs and Sagna not being match fit is his fault because he picked them knowing this was the case and didnt buy anyone to fill in when they were out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Yeah I see where your coming from but the problem I have is that there didn't seem to be tactics of any sort deployed last night.

    It seemed to me as if Arsene just sent them out to play.
    Exactly that, what were the tactics being used?

    What exactly was the gameplan?

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