Should Wenger go?

[Fats]

no

Ollie, can I ask you to elaborate. Im not being an arse, just reading your posts I understand you still think he has something to offer. Im struggling to understand your thinking, genuinely want to understand.

[Coney]

I have the utmost respect for him, his integrity and achievements but his time has passed.

Yeah - I have to broadly agree, I think he was the right man at the time he joined and made a difference to the Arsenal and it appears he had a big influence on a lot of the other PL teams who do a lot of the same stuff now - diet and so forth. However, now that the rest of the PL are doing that, we need something new again to regain the ability to challenge for honours consistently. I'm pretty sure that if Wenger had been prepared to compromise his ideals - just spend on 2 or 3 players - that could have made the difference to a lot of results which, in turn would have given rise to more trophies with a corresponding positive effect on the team mentality, turning what is a tired team into one able to turn it on and show confidence in attack and defence. Wenger has, for me, yet again shown that he has not changed - he did not do anything this January and for me that is the last straw. It might well be he is covering for the board and it is not all his decision, but as you say, the situation cannot continue and the only way that it seems it can change is if he moves on.

[Xhaka Can’t]

No doubting the respect for Wenger will always be there and for what he's done for us. The very fact we see 4th place and going out in the CL knockouts as a flop says it all. All good things don't last forever though and Wenger is yesterdays man now, Football has moved on from 1998 and he just doesn't cut it anymore for me. If ever there was a manager living off reputation alone it has to be Arsene Wenger.

The club is stuck in a turgid cycle that remarkably repeats itself every season, it is very draining as a supporter to know exactly where the club is going wrong and to see nothing done about it. The fact my interest and emotional attachment to Arsenal has waned over the past 2 years tells me that something is broken.

It is very obvious that the club needs something radical to happen if it is going to compete at the top again.

The cycle is so repetitive and predictable, you can't even enjoy the successes that occur.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Ollie, can I ask you to elaborate. Im not being an arse, just reading your posts I understand you still think he has something to offer. Im struggling to understand your thinking, genuinely want to understand.

Whats wrong with Ollie saying no and leaving it at that, i understand you want to know his reasoning it behind it, but should we not repect his answer.

[Coney]

Ollie, can I ask you to elaborate. Im not being an arse, just reading your posts I understand you still think he has something to offer. Im struggling to understand your thinking, genuinely want to understand.

He would have a lot to offer if he would change his policy on not buying players and not having so many players of the same mould. But he won't, it would seem.

[Coney]

Whats wrong with Ollie saying no and leaving it at that, i understand you want to know his reasoning it behind it, but should we not repect his answer.

No.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

No.

Can you elaborate on that please just want to know your reasoning behind it.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Good post.

I could never disrespect the man. He took us places we never would have gone without him.

I have no problem in disrespecting the man, for me he has been complacently riding his achievements to stem the outrage of our descent into mediocrity. He has no more respect for the fans than that fat fuck Hill Wood does, look how he responded two weeks ago when he heard that there would be a fan protest just dismissed it like we were a bunch of malcontents and didn't try to take any responsibility for the fact that we were feeling aggrieved.

Also what have we achieved barring over-reaching by reaching a european cup final and going through a season unbeaten, I know it's hard for fans to believe but we won league titles before Wenger came to the club and even with his successes comes a plethora of missed oportunity. 03/04 was an open goal for us in the champions league...we had gone to stamford bridge in the quarters and ground out a decent result to stand us in good stead but we bottle it at highbury....anyone who says that the team we had couldn't have got past monaco or Mourinho's Porto doesn't know what they are talking about.

We have won three titles, by my calculations that's three less than we should have.......1998/1999 everyone will remember as United's treble year but not if we hadn't bottled it against Leeds.

2002/2003 - five points clear in february, united win by five points in May say no more

2007/2008 - five points clear in february.....i'm sure you get the picture

Not to forget the 2000 uefa cup where we outplay galatasray and lose on penalties

[Xhaka Can’t]

Your anger clouds your judgement.

[Fats]

Whats wrong with Ollie saying no and leaving it at that, i understand you want to know his reasoning it behind it, but should we not repect his answer.

Im not being pedantic. Just genuinely interested. I respect his view whether it agree's with anyones or not.

This would be a very boring forum without debate and reasoning.

I know why I would like AW to move on and am more than willing to put forward those reasons. I would like to hear, at this point in time, why someone else still has faith in him.