Only a hour or so from Sunderland when you put your foot down! Thank god, that journey back was bad enough
Only a hour or so from Sunderland when you put your foot down! Thank god, that journey back was bad enough
Yep thats exactky what we need a beating by our rivals.Originally Posted by fakeyank
Actually it seems to me this club really has to go pretty low before it will do something to bring itself up again. Short term pain may be better than lingering ennui, no?
That's right. Look at most corporate entities these days with their ever declining services, greedy rates, fucked up call centres that take the piss. Customer loyalty is nowhere in the equation these days because it is taken for granted or at least poor performance in that area can be compensated for by state of the art customer acquisition models.
The present board members have their loot safely tucked away, why should they care less what becomes of the club beyond delivering on whatever terms they made their agreement with Kroenke under? And Stan, he'll have a business plan in place and it seems to be based on acquiring Asian and African revenue. There's still enough inertia to allow the present shambles to trade off the back of past glory. That won't last forever but it could last long enough, especially in combination with enhanced revenue from overseas, to deliver Stan a decent return. Then he's out and what does he care?
Kroenke is not a football man. 99% chance says he's here to hoover up on the unrealised brand potential before that brand is tarnished beyond these shores. Point is, for those thinking it can't get worse because sure "those guys" will do something, that doesn't have to be true. It's the blood they're after, not the corpse. I could be reading it wrong but then I think of the possible reasons Kroenke would ever want a club like Arsenal anyway. The prestige? He already has that in the States. Love of the club? We can scratch that away without much thought. He has to be here for the money, what other realistic reason could there be?
So then it all becomes a case of how he will make his money (and he will, one way or another). Will he do it by risking his own money to build a winning team that can compete at the very top? Or will he squeeze the hidden value out of dogshit sponsorship and merchandising deals, take the loot and make back his initial investment by bunging the club at some goon like Usmanov? He's a hard-headed businessman. What do you think his plan is more likely to be?
Where will we be by the time these guys have stopped feeding? We can see how fast we're falling, to the point we can almost predict the date of each fresh calamity. We already know what's happening in 2012, for example. I don't think the money men care where the club will be when they are gone. I suspect they only care about what they can get from it while they are here. I say this because everything we have seen so far matches this analysis.
I doubt we'll even get rid of Wenger before his contract expires, because that would cost extra money. So if Wenger is as bad as most people think and if Kroenke decides to go for milking the club rather than injecting it with steroids, we could be looking at our first trip in even the longest fan's memory to the lower leagues. That's how low it could go. Depends if anyone decides to risk a great deal by coming in to pick up the pieces.
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Made this point in another thread but if Stan really wanted to milk this club, he'd be looking at our wage bill and trying to lower it. Paying over £100k in wages with the bill rising is senseless. Corporate entities that look for maximum profit don't simply sell off their most valuable assets and look to survive. The big banks that move their customer call centres to India or the companies that open up sweat shops in China, do it because they can pay lower wages for workers and maximise profit. We, on the other hand, have lowered our standards in the quality but still paying a hefty amount. That makes little sense and I can't understand why nobody has looked into lowering the bill if they're trying to milk us. It's one of the main drains on the club.
so how do you think he will lower the wage bill? by selling the big earners (cesc) and the big demanders (nasri) obv.
because if you think he can just shed the overpaid dross (denilson, almunia, bendtner, vela) then youve got another thing coming. clubs just will not touch them.
No idea how we're going to shed the bill but, for starters, maybe we should stop offering players like Djourou bigger contacts when they haven't done any thing to earn it.
We sell Nasri and Cesc and their now off the wage bill but it goes towards waste like Djourou, Park and many other useless players. It shouldn't be on the increase if the quality is dropping year after year.
If we let them go for next to nothing we have a chance, seeing as we have to cough off for their wages it makes sense. Wenger paid these chumps big money and now he can't get rid, but maybe if we gave them away for 100k we might have more luck.
We'll probably just have to keep on loaning that dross out for subsidised wages until their contracts expire.
No one is going to touch a player like Bendtner on 50k. He was hankering for a move all summer and Sunderland only got him on loan at the last minute because they were desperate after Gyan did a runner. Otherwise I'm sure he would have still been a part of the squad stinking up the place.
It's our own fault, the market has not forced us to pay disproportionate wages, we do it off our own bat in hope these kids have some sense of loyalty to us.
Top players should get top money, even silly money if the market dictates that. I wouldn't care if we gave RVP 150k a week for example.
Kids who've done nothing, absolutley nothing deserve sod all. They need to be given something to work towards and not have it handed on a plate. If they don't like it and they fancy earning more elsewhere, fuck 'em because it shows them up for the type of character they are and those are the people I don't want at the club.
Last edited by Marc Overmars; 19-02-2012 at 12:17 PM.
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