"...so let's focus on that".
Well we don't have much bloody choice do we?
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"...so let's focus on that".
Well we don't have much bloody choice do we?
But is that not EXACTLY the same as every single one of the other 91 managers in the league look when things are going wrong. Mick McCarthy was looked like it hurt him, Wolves were plummeting, Moyes looks in the same pain Everton will never be better than 8th, Coyle looks like he's in pain. I'd expect nothing less from any manager. The only ones that you can say don't are probably more animated like Kean trying to impact on the game.Originally Posted by Letters
Its time for a change at the club, the decline of our club isn't a patch of bad form, something at the top needs to change. It annoys me when pundits and players say AW can't leave and he shouldn't be criticized because of what he's DONE, but they never reflect on the things that are ruining his legacy and how today isn't the same as those days.
Formerly Known As Gunner_fan_4_life - GF4L
Wenger & a lot of his fans, really piss me off with that "4h place/trophy" bollocks. There was one on 606 today. It is everything that is wrong with modern day football - and our own manager openly advocates it.
People will focus on the '4th place is the first trophy' comment. The thing that winds me up - and I don't know why it still does - is the comment on "missing big, big players".
We always fucking have big, big players out. Imagine for a second that we had the big player out (no, not Santos or Arshavin). Imagine if Van Persie was injured. It's hard to imagine us appearing in the first page of ceefax 324. Planning your league campaign on the idea that you won't miss your big, big players is ludicrous. Especially when you consider our injury record in recent years. It's not a fucking coincidence. Sort it the fuck out or resign.
Everything is money & 4th place. Old things like trophies, finals, Wembley matches etc, mean nothing now. All you need to do is settle for 4th, for the money of the overhyped and 90% tediously dull Champions League and that's your objectives reached.
If we'd had our 1993 seasons again now (which was one of the best & most enjoyable in my time) it would be deemed a flop in todays football. A phenomenal season, winning both domestic cups, 4 wembley matches in about 6 weeks, 5 in 3 months & a decent but not great league campaign. But no - today's objective is to come 4th & get knocked out of those by a semi decent pub side.
4th is only an arbetary place set by Uefa anyway, I'd love Platini to revise it to 3rd so this banal attidude of settling for a random place plucked out the air, as constituting success would stop. If he offered 5 or even 6 places to the P.L the worst thing is, the culture of this club would gear themselves to coming 6th each year as being successful.
Its funny you mention the 92-93 season...
That is a good question, Wenger was clearly better in partnership with Dein but that doesn't mean Dein should be given all the credit. You could equally say how many trophies would we have won with Dein around in that era but a different manager. I suspect nowhere near as many and not with the style we did it. If you have any understanding or knowledge of English football history and the way the club was pre-Wenger and the way he changed things you'll know how revolutionary his methods were at the time. To say otherwise is just revisionism.
Dein
What do you mean?
I think he means that David Dien is not a top flight football manager, and if you stuck him in charge of our first eleven now, he'd probably play his son on the wing so he could earn a few quid.
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
No, no, I mean, what does 'Revisionism' mean?
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