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    Quote Originally Posted by Flavs View Post
    If it stays as is i think we should boycott the emirates
    Innit.

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    He pretty much started his blog declaring his bias and then made a number of points all justifying in his mind why he is right to hold his bias.

    From a perspective of trying to understand what is going on, it is about as helpful as asking Arsene Wenger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flavs View Post
    Anyway ignoring "dat shizzle" does anyone actually expect anything to change at the club?
    Possibly, given the voice of disapproval has never been this loud before, coupled with potentially missing out on the CL, it's uncharted territory for the club over the past 15 years. If nothing changes now then frankly it never will under this regime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    Oh I see.

    Basically, you dont like it so its wrong.

    Ok.
    Well no. I'm sure you don't read much I've written on here (and why would you), but my view is pretty clear on the whole fiasco.

    I hold Wenger wholy accountable for the team, tactics, poor motivation etc etc etc.

    I hold the board responsible for money. They run the club / business.

    What the AST are trying to establish is what is going on behind the scenes, both as fans and shareholders. They have made a stab at projecting where we are financially, based on some pretty sound reasoning, and with knowledge on how Arsenal PLC produce their accounts. And on that basis, given that they don't know for sure, have raised some valid questions, which they are hoping that the club will answer.

    Some of that is directed at the manager. Some of that is directed at the owner and the board.

    What they haven't done is draw conclusions from it, as they don't have the answers. And as they, as a valid organisation can't proclaim to have the answers, they haven't set any agenda, and furthermore, have not sort to advocate any action regarding the manager. Where as Le Grove's Blogger has, without any kind of objectivity.

    I've no problem with people asserting their views, (and don't think for one second I'm in the Arsene is God fanclub) but I do expect someone with a wide readership to show some sort of reasoning, in a well constructed piece, and at least back it up with some evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Possibly, given the voice of disapproval has never been this loud before, coupled with potentially missing out on the CL, it's uncharted territory for the club over the past 15 years. If nothing changes now then frankly it never will under this regime.
    Pretty much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GB. View Post
    He pretty much started his blog declaring his bias and then made a number of points all justifying in his mind why he is right to hold his bias.

    From a perspective of trying to understand what is going on, it is about as helpful as asking Arsene Wenger.
    Yup.

    And that first bit really annoyed me. "When I first attended....blah blah....and I raised a question (look at me!!!!!) blah blah...."

    I'd love to see what actually went on, and also know when his first meeting was.

    This is the bloke who interviewed that twat "who once wrote a book on Arsenal" who believes himself to be Arsene Wengers closest aide....it was awful.

    Writing pieces like that do more harm than good when there is a wide readership, because they don't have the facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Possibly, given the voice of disapproval has never been this loud before, coupled with potentially missing out on the CL, it's uncharted territory for the club over the past 15 years. If nothing changes now then frankly it never will under this regime.

    Well our Chairman says missing out on the CL is not a big deal. But the manager seemss to desperately want it for some reason and believes its vital. The way i see it unless the manager and board reslove what ever issue/s they seem to have nothing will change with all these at the helm off the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    Should Wenger be held to account for his "advice" regarding the rights issue? Sorry, but he can't tell them to rebuy their sodding shares. He may have advised it was not necessary, owing to the fact that we had Cesc, Nasri and plenty of other decent players who SHOULD have won us the league.
    Let me try my best to understand your thinking here. The Usmanov proposal was put forward on the 15th June 2009. The season was over with man u winning their third EPL in a row. They did that with the help one of the most coveted players in the world, Rooney, oh yeah, and reigning PFA/UEFA/FIFA world best player in the world, Ronaldo. They had just been beaten in their 2nd CL final in a row.

    On the other hand, we the mighty Arsenal had just (mainly thanks to signing Arshavin) managed 4th in the league (18pts behind the champions, 11pts behind 3rd place), our 4th trophyless season in a row, with the acclaimed world beaters you've just mentioned. To make matters worse we were going to face a 100 million shortfall on our property project. Oh and BTW 3 days before Usmanov's proposal we had just woken up to the sobering news that the main threat to us winning the league had got an 80 million instant cash injection by selling Ronaldo; no one knew how they would spend their money. But even with this backdrop I'm sure your reasoning makes sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    Notwithstanding the fact that he has a duty to the club, and the board (his employers), and if he advised "yes, buy your shares back to give me money" and it fucked them over, he would be crucified. Not buy the fans, but by his own employers.
    At least here you make an attempt to realise who the man was really worried about when he gave that advice.

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    Here is an "attempt" to cull information from a "balanced" "unbiased" source.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/davi...t&type=article

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