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    But what is annoying is that for a couple of million that he is supposedly quibbling about for the odd player's transfer price, we could be out of the CL places with a revenue loss of 30+ million. Looking at the cost vs balance of risk, that is not good money management.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxPeck View Post
    But what is annoying is that for a couple of million that he is supposedly quibbling about for the odd player's transfer price, we could be out of the CL places with a revenue loss of 30+ million. Looking at the cost vs balance of risk, that is not good money management.
    Don't worry PHW says we will be fine even if we miss out, and he don't lie does he.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I don't trust him in the transfer market anymore either. No doubt he has unearthed some rough diamonds ie. Kos, but if someone could whip up a list of his last 15 signings (coz I can't be arsed), those diamonds are few and far between now IMO. Will he go out there and buy us a catalyst player, Hazard, Gotze etc...? I doubt it. More likely to raid a reserve team and get another Eisfeld. That's WUMger at his best.

    The problem is that everyone has a scouting network on the same level now, and Arsenal and Arsene Wenger are no longer the same draw.
    He does not have a choice if he wants to still be manager here. Or try to convinve RVP to stay. he knows he has to spend big whether he wants too or not, but he needs to CL to get that money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    Don't worry PHW says we will be fine even if we miss out, and he don't lie does he.
    I feel better already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxPeck View Post
    I feel better already.
    He's our chairman has our best interests at heart lol.

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    He is obsessed about value for money. Which admirable in a way but frankly in a lot of cases, you get what you pay for IMO. We paid big bucks for Oxo and it looks like we have the best teenager in the world. We paid modest sums for Gervais and Arteta and it looks like we have capable but extremely frustrating players. I mean, there must have been a reason why Gervinho, a key player in Lille's title winning team wasn't courted as much as say Eden Hazard, and now we're finding out why.

    Spending big is of course no guarantee for success but the market has changed now. You won't be able to pick up the next Van Persie or Vieira for 3m, because everyone knows who they are meaning you need to pay a premium. Wenger has not bitten the bullet and adapted his style. I remember an interview at the start of the season, a classic WUMger interview, he spoke about being willing to spend 30 or even 40m on a player, but they had to be the right player...or in another words you could say, super quality.

    Who's he trying to kid? Also, the fact we did nothing in January speaks volumes.
    Last edited by Marc Overmars; 24-02-2012 at 12:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    He is obsessed about value for money. Which admirable in a way but frankly in a lot of cases, you get what you pay for IMO. We paid big bucks for Oxo and it looks like we have the best teenager in the world. We paid modest sums for Gervais and Arteta and it looks like we have capable but extremely frustrating players. I mean, there must have been a reason why Gervinho, a key player in Lille's title winning team wasn't courted as much as say Eden Hazard, and now we're finding out why.

    Spending big is of course no guarantee for success but the market has changed now. You won't be able to pick up the next Van Persie or Vieira for 3m, because everyone knows who they are meaning you need to pay a premium. Wenger has not bitten the bullet and adapted his style. I remember an interview at the start of the season, a classic WUMger interview, he spoke about being willing to spend 30 or even 40m on a player, but they had to be the right player...or in another words you could say, super quality.

    Who's he trying to kid? Also, the fact we did nothing in January speaks volumes.
    Depends on the situation in Jan tbh, he knew we never going to win the league or cl so why spend for the fa cup alone, maybe he assumed we had enough to get top 4 or he and the board decided they won't spend till they know the situation in summer. Not alot of quality wanted to move in Jan anyways and i don't who there was much quality who had not played in the cl we could really get.


    On Gevinho your being way harsh on him, he was courted as much as hazard, lots of big clubs wanted him, including pool, spuds, city and chavs. And he was excellent at Lille he just is not motivated with this team. I assume he thought he'd be playing with better players. Wasn't he the one who said he'd have not come here if he knew it was going to be like this. he has not settled but neither did drogba in his 1st season give him a chance.


    Rest of the post i agree with.
    Last edited by Olivier's xmas twist; 24-02-2012 at 08:55 AM.

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    From the AST the other day it said the real cost of not qualifying for the CL is nearer 45million.

    On that basis, and seeing as we are a business, would it have not been desperately obvious we needed to buy.

    The other point on that is why oh why do we still buy players from Africa. Jan is possibly one of the most testing months of the season, and this has come and bitten us on our arses before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fats View Post
    From the AST the other day it said the real cost of not qualifying for the CL is nearer 45million.

    On that basis, and seeing as we are a business, would it have not been desperately obvious we needed to buy.

    The other point on that is why oh why do we still buy players from Africa. Jan is possibly one of the most testing months of the season, and this has come and bitten us on our arses before.
    Why should it matter where they are from if they are good enough, the ACON is not every season is it. We only bought 1 i doubt that was the reason we failed this season.

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