the worst wenger side ever could be the best since 2006?

[Letters]

well i tend to sway from the universal definition.

Clearly.

personally i dont think highlighting 2 games out of 30+ is good enough prove this squad is capable.

I didn't. And I'm not sure what you mean by 'capable'? Capable of what? After 27 games we're 4th. That shows we're not that bad a side. It actually shows that till now we've been the 4th best side around. We have been carried this year by RvP to an alarming degree but there have been some signs (from mid-October to mid-December when we won 7 and drew 1 from 8 league games and more recently where we've won the last 4 in a row and last night's game where we were fantastic) that we're not such an awful side. Not title contenders, clearly, but not the mid-table side I feared at times we'd become.

No-one on here has said that everything is fantastic and we don't need to spend to improve the squad.
Have you seen anyone say that? I haven't.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Scoring in the 2nd half makes no difference if they put their chances away we still go out, end off the day the lads gave a good effort and i was proud of them for that.

As for not going through that a different matter over all and a different discussion.

well im different to you.

our mental thought processes clearly differ; whilst you find content and comfort in the fact we only lost 4-3, i see it as quite bad. i look at the bigger picture; getting thumped 4-0 at the san siro, a shit bench last night, players getting injured kicking thin air.

time and time again, same fucking problems.

but it seems you're content with all that because 'we scored 3 and showed great spirit'.

to me it isnt good enough.

looks like wengers words have rubbed off on you.

[Letters]

when did i say we cant be proud of the team? in fact theres been many times ive been proud in defeat this season. but not last night.

Then you're an idiot, frankly.

not being able to score a 2nd half goal against a shit milan? proud?

Is this the shit Milan who are the Italian champions and currently top of the Italian league?

maybe if we hadnt fucked it up in the 1st leg i would have been proud.

That's not really relevant. The first leg was awful and we had very little chance of qualifying. They could have laid down and given up but they fought for it and gave themselves a chance when pretty much no-one thought we had one. This team who a lot of us, me included, have been so criticising this season fought hard last night and beat the Italian champions 3-0. It wasn't enough but the result, performance and effort on the night were fantastic. Pretty much no-one thought we could win 4-0 and now you're moaning because we didn't?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

And all SWAYR is saying that this has been said every season for the past 6 seasons yet nothing changes and people dont seem to think to clock on.

SWAYR has opened his eyes to the situation regardless of how we play and who we beat in one off games.

Time others did

I can't talk for others but me i don't care about what happend in past seasons its hear and now and what happens between now and summer will be crucial for our club. I believe we do have a core for team which is good to see but quality needs to be added an no excuses need to be made be it Wenger or the board.

However yesterday even though we lost i was suppored the lads because i was proud of the effort, not the defeat on aggreate but the effort and i could not fault them for it.

I get what SWAYR is saying

[Letters]

But thats just it. Its been said time and time again. No doubt we'll sign someone. The someone wont be anyone of the sufficient quality needed though but cos we have bought this someone, we wont buy anyone else. Add that to the fact RVP is off this summer, its not looking good

Well, you may be right. But that's for the future. I'm just happy with how we're playing right now. If we don't do what we need to in the summer and we lose RvP then this little rally will have been for nought but there's no point worrying about that now. If we keep playing like we have recently then I'll enjoy the end of this season and worry about next season when it gets here.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

well im different to you.

our mental thought processes clearly differ; whilst you find content and comfort in the fact we only lost 4-3, i see it as quite bad. i look at the bigger picture; getting thumped 4-0 at the san siro, a shit bench last night, players getting injured kicking thin air.

time and time again, same fucking problems.

but it seems you're content with all that because 'we scored 3 and showed great spirit'.

to me it isnt good enough.

looks like wengers words have rubbed off on you.

Never said that but good on you for making yourself look good.

If you actually read what i said, you no i said i was proud of the effort from the lads, because really they could have said feck this shit lets not even go for it after all mot the fans have given up and the media lets just win 1-0.

They never. They tried but failed. The damage was done in Italy and nothing was going to change that.

The reason we lost yeah was down to AW for not buying quality in the summer but like i said its a different topic for a different thread.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Clearly.



I didn't. And I'm not sure what you mean by 'capable'? Capable of what? After 27 games we're 4th. That shows we're not that bad a side. It actually shows that till now we've been the 4th best side around. We have been carried this year by RvP to an alarming degree but there have been some signs (from mid-October to mid-December when we won 7 and drew 1 from 8 league games and more recently where we've won the last 4 in a row and last night's game where we were fantastic) that we're not such an awful side. Not title contenders, clearly, but not the mid-table side I feared at times we'd become.

No-one on here has said that everything is fantastic and we don't need to spend to improve the squad.
Have you seen anyone say that? I haven't.

sorry but we are a shit side. we've had our worst season in god knows how long and you're trying to spin it round on me by giving me this 4th bullshit. sure you can statistically back it up by saying 'we're the 4th best team in the country', and give me some cack statistics about a run of good games we had.

but fact is this team has been nothing short of an embaressment over the past 8 months; from our defending, to the way we had to call a 34 year old striker back to help us, to the way the manager moans about everything, even to the way we play sometimes which is nothing short of dull and listless.

we are fucking lucky we have van persie because without him we would be mid table. but you cant sit there and try to justify our performances and season this year, because it boils down to ONE PLAYER, not the team.

but i guess whilst there's fans like you supporting the team things wont change.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Then you're an idiot, frankly.



Is this the shit Milan who are the Italian champions and currently top of the Italian league?



That's not really relevant. The first leg was awful and we had very little chance of qualifying. They could have laid down and given up but they fought for it and gave themselves a chance when pretty much no-one thought we had one. This team who a lot of us, me included, have been so criticising this season fought hard last night and beat the Italian champions 3-0. It wasn't enough but the result, performance and effort on the night were fantastic. Pretty much no-one thought we could win 4-0 and now you're moaning because we didn't?

1. excellent example set by big man once again, calling me an idiot and insulting posters just because they dont share the same view as him.

2. i dont take much notice that they are italian champions. their owner is nothing short of a well known crook so you cant justify them winning the italian league because its more than likely they paid off officials for it, like they have in the past.

3.

That's not really relevant.

they won 4-0 at the san siro. we won 3-0 at emirates. they went through 4-3 on aggregate.

clearly it is relevant.

[Letters]

sorry but we are a shit side.

How come we're 4th then? It's not 'spin' or 'bullshit'. We are 4th. It's a fact. Look at a table.
After 27 games that is significant.

The only thing in your post which made any sense was that we wouldn't be there without RvP. We're not 'lucky' to have him, we bought him years ago and have been patient with him through all his injury problems. I personally thought we should sell him because of that, I'm very happy now we didn't.

Clearly we need to make some signings but we can't do that now so I'm just going to get behind them and if we keep playing like we have recently then you'll get no complaints from me. There's work to be done in the summer and I hear Ach may be right in his assessment of how things will go but that's to worry about in a few months time, not now.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Never said that but good on you for making yourself look good.

you may never have said it but clearly you are, otherwise you'd be fucked off like me.

you said you're proud of the team and they done well to show fight and spirit, trying to justify the loss.
if thats not content i dont know what is