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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Arteta is a good player . But it is hard to notice his contribution . If you compare his to Cesc then you will be disappointed as Mikel is not that kind of player . But if you can remember Gilberto , then you can understand what Arteta is : The '' new invisible wall " . When arteta plays we take him for granted and don't see his importance to the team . When he doesn't play and we struggle and we start wishing he was there . Credit where it is deserved .
    It is the story of many good players doing the DM role. Some people don't realise their contribution until suddenly they are missing due to injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Arteta is a good player . But it is hard to notice his contribution . If you compare his to Cesc then you will be disappointed as Mikel is not that kind of player . But if you can remember Gilberto , then you can understand what Arteta is : The '' new invisible wall " . When arteta plays we take him for granted and don't see his importance to the team . When he doesn't play and we struggle and we start wishing he was there . Credit where it is deserved .
    Arteta isnt and never has been a DM though like Gilberto.

    At Everton, he was their creative midfield player and his set pieces were very good.

    At Arsenal, he rarely makes a pass forward and his set pieces are awful

    Even Gilberto played his part offensively. Arteta doesnt. Hes been a failure. Not a major one such as Benayoun, Park, Jenkinson but a flop nontheless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ach View Post
    Arteta isnt and never has been a DM though like Gilberto.

    At Everton, he was their creative midfield player and his set pieces were very good.

    At Arsenal, he rarely makes a pass forward and his set pieces are awful

    Even Gilberto played his part offensively. Arteta doesnt. Hes been a failure. Not a major one such as Benayoun, Park, Jenkinson but a flop nontheless
    If him being there stops some of the opposition goals and results in us winning more games, I don't give a shit what his official title and position are, or what he was originally (thought to be) bought for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coney View Post
    If him being there stops some of the opposition goals and results in us winning more games, I don't give a shit what his official title and position are, or what he was originally (thought to be) bought for.
    Well thats just it. It hasnt really has it?

    Not really Artetas fault as hes not a DM and hes been put there by a mong

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    Bollocks. Listen to yesterday's Tuesday Club and hear Jonathan Creek talk up gelboy's contribution - he's spot on.

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    Hey Ach, leave the sexy spaniard alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Hey Ach, leave the sexy spaniard alone.
    Arteta? Sexy?

    Hes an ugly fuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    Bollocks. Listen to yesterday's Tuesday Club and hear Jonathan Creek talk up gelboy's contribution - he's spot on.
    What did JC say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coney View Post
    What did JC say?
    He was talking about Ramsey I think - and how he's always a bit desperate to make something happen. Which is great. But he is too wasteful and we can't stamp any authority on the game. He was saying Arteta does what the experienced players in the past used to do for us. Bergkamp would keep making short passes and keeping it simple until he could spot a clear opening. His positional awareness is spot on. He knows where to be and what to do. There was always a great naivety about our play in recent years. I think Arteta has helped to clamp down on that rather well.

    Another great comment I think he made was about Theo - saying that in the past few weeks we have seen him learn a lot about football. Before Theo used to drift out of games a lot and a lot of the time you didn't know he was on the pitch. Now he knows where to be. You can talk about him missing chances but he's always in the right place. He talked about how you couldn't keep players like Pires out of the game because although he'd never run more than 20 yards, he knew exactly where to be. You compare that with Oxlade's performance and you could see that he was struggling to get involved, which is to be expected. Theo is starting to learn the art of that - along with the fact that, as Wenger says, at 22, this is the time players start performing consistently. But encouraging signs is all it is at this stage - too early to say he has turned the corner.

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    When watching Arteta is always good to bear in mind the theoreticals.

    Football is about controlling space.

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