3rd/4th vs A domestic cup double

[GP]

It's no exaggeration to say that some refs are worse than Hitler.

[Coney]

It's no exaggeration to say that some refs are worse than Hitler.

Benayoun had better watch out then.

[Özim]

I think today's result should help to add some perspective to our season, we're a long way from being where we need to be and as I said before the mini run changed little for me.

Next season will be much of the same unless some significant changes are made IMO.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I think today's result should help to add some perspective to our season, we're a long way from being where we need to be and as I said before the mini run changed little for me.

Next season will be much of the same unless some significant changes are made IMO.

True, If the people that run the club don't see we need changes then they need help. Even if we won this game we still had to strenghen but its not a bad thing this loss if it opens their eyes.

[milla]

True, If the people that run the club don't see we need changes then they need help. Even if we won this game we still had to strenghen but its not a bad thing this loss if it opens their eyes.

[Gubby Allen]

This is why i am still a bit disgusted with the way we treated the Carling cup final against Birmingham.

Of all the things AW or the club have pissed me off by doing, or all the frustrations of the last 6 years - that (and I'll include the 3 or 4 days leading up to it) is still right at the top of the list.

[Gubby Allen]

I think the quality is there to compete for a cup as well as CL football, the problem is that we can't seem to cope when the fixtures pile up and we get a "season defining" week. When have we ever come out of one those in good shape? The Sunderland defeat following Milan was the most predictable result going.

It's not right to say the pressure was off. 0-2 down to Spurs the pressure was most certainly ON.

We've done remarkably well to put this run together, but I guess the frustration stems from what was mentioned earlier in the thread about Cups being for the fans, for me there isn't another buzz like it and it's disappointing that despite consistently being able to achieve our goal of top 4, we haven't managed to deliver a cup or 2 along with it.

It's not a question of one or the other, we absolutley should be able to do both. Just as Liverpool should be able to compete for the top 4 as well as the cups. It's not like City and United have monopolised these competitions as well, plenty of teams on our level and sometimes below us reach the latter stages.

Problem is we've less points at 30 or 31 games than we had last season, we went no futher in the C.L than last season & were further away from going through and against a considerably worse side, we went out of the FA Cup a round earlier & the league cup 2 rounds earlier. So by no stretch of anyone's imagination could that be seen as progress, we haven't bettered ourself in one competition.

Yet it seems to a lot of people to have been an improvement - probably a combination of a place higher in the league for now, the second half of the season being better than the first and playing well when the first team have been fit - but there's still actually little if any improvement.