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    From the FA all the way up to FIFA the whole premise is that the referee is NEVER wrong and admitting he may have been shows weakness so it
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    Utter balls. I'd have far more time for the whole system of the ref admitted he saw it but, having seen a replay, realised he called it wrong and that retrospective punishment is appropriate. The way it is right now is completely nonsensical. It doesn't matter how crass or clearly wrong a decision is, if the ref 'saw' it that's that and his decision at the time was right.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    From the FA all the way up to FIFA the whole premise is that the referee is NEVER wrong and admitting he may have been shows weakness so it
    Must.
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    Utter balls. I'd have far more time for the whole system of the ref admitted he saw it but, having seen a replay, realised he called it wrong and that retrospective punishment is appropriate. The way it is right now is completely nonsensical. It doesn't matter how crass or clearly wrong a decision is, if the ref 'saw' it that's that and his decision at the time was right.

    I guess from their point of view, they would say that if we start correcting bad decisions after the game, where does it end? The team on the receiving end of the decision would say 'what about some other challenge in the 73rd minute' or 'how about correcting the penalty decision we were supposed to get' etc.

    Setting up a transparent points record for referees and a 'challengers' system is the way forward IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    I guess from their point of view, they would say that if we start correcting bad decisions after the game, where does it end? The team on the receiving end of the decision would say 'what about some other challenge in the 73rd minute' or 'how about correcting the penalty decision we were supposed to get' etc.

    Setting up a transparent points record for referees and a 'challengers' system is the way forward IMO.
    Not really. It is not as if the intention is to change the result of games, which would be silly. But if someone has dived, kicked the shit out of someone, etc. then even if the ref made an on-the-spot decision at the time with what he saw - which has to happen to keep the flow of the game - it is not undermining the ref if, with the help of different camera angles and the ability to analyse incidents, we should not punish violent or cheating cunts after the event rather than let them get away scot free. In the long run, I reckon it would improve the game by reducing diving and taking a few more thugs off the pitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coney View Post
    Not really. It is not as if the intention is to change the result of games, which would be silly. But if someone has dived, kicked the shit out of someone, etc. then even if the ref made an on-the-spot decision at the time with what he saw - which has to happen to keep the flow of the game - it is not undermining the ref if, with the help of different camera angles and the ability to analyse incidents, we should not punish violent or cheating cunts after the event rather than let them get away scot free. In the long run, I reckon it would improve the game by reducing diving and taking a few more thugs off the pitch.
    Fair point.

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    I don't get it.

    Wasn't Ben Thatcher retrospectively banned by the FA after his elbow on Mendes even though he was booked for it?

    Are they just making it up as they go along, or have the rules changed since then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suarez Is Boss View Post
    I don't get it.

    Wasn't Ben Thatcher retrospectively banned by the FA after his elbow on Mendes even though he was booked for it?

    Are they just making it up as they go along, or have the rules changed since then?
    Was he sent of for it though? had he been sent off then maybe not alot may have been done, but if it was only a yellow then the people at the fa can examine it and hand out extra bans if they think it was deserved of a red.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    Was he sent of for it though? had he been sent off then maybe not alot may have been done, but if it was only a yellow then the people at the fa can examine it and hand out extra bans if they think it was deserved of a red.
    I thought the exact opposite was the case? The FA don't (they say can't) punish you retrospectively if you have been booked ie: the referee saw the incident?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    I guess from their point of view, they would say that if we start correcting bad decisions after the game, where does it end? The team on the receiving end of the decision would say 'what about some other challenge in the 73rd minute' or 'how about correcting the penalty decision we were supposed to get' etc.

    Setting up a transparent points record for referees and a 'challengers' system is the way forward IMO.
    This is why Video Technology is needed the sooner the better. I have always hated this idea but with inconpitant refs like have we may have to use it.

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