Originally Posted by Ach
Would not say pisses on him but he is better, then again Pep Shits on the both tbh.
Just don't know anymore tbh.
Would not say pisses on him but he is better, then again Pep Shits on the both tbh.
Just don't know anymore tbh.
Pep
The barca fall guy who has f all to do with their success as most is down to Laporta, refs, UEFA, FIFA? Hes just there as the face and to be the fall guy if as looks likely this season it all goes pear shaped
Well because I'm wondering whether any manager in the world could do better with this squad of players. Buying world class players for silly money is the easy bit. I'm interested in someone getting the most out of a group of players and not being bailed out by a big fat chequebook.
To only be behind Manure and Citeh, which is to be expected, and to be in front of Chelsea etc is an achievement IMO.
How could you say that? Mourinho has never had to work under any sort of strain or external influence. Wenger has turned us from an average Premier League side into a club respected over Europe. The stadium handicapped us initially but he still did remarkably well to keep us in the top 4, all that with a young and sometimes average squad as well. I'm not saying Wenger it out right better than Mourinho, both have their relative merits but I think what Wenger has achieved is on the whole far more impressive.
I disagree, Mourinho has gone to different clubs and delivered extraordinary success at all of them.
Porto and Inter had no hope of winning the CL without him and you can see the difference in the team ethic as soon as her turns up pretty much. How have Chelsea done since he's left, they haven't really won all that much which again shows how good he is.
Wenger has gone over 6 years without so much as a tin pot trophy to his name and has made some awful mistakes, whilst he's not done too badly all in all this season we've lost a lot of games and although we've had two purple patches we've also had some awful runs, that's ignoring the fact we were knocked out of everything by February which is pretty poor for us.
best manager in the league
no trophy for 7 years, shite at tactics, cant organise the defence, awful signings along the way, made us an absolute embarressment, but 4 months of good football and apparently he's the best manager in the league
we're fortunate we have rvp otherwise this thread would be 'is wenger the worst manager in the premier league?'
mancini is more tactically astute, its just he has a bunch of knobheads in his team fighting for the biggest payday.
fergie's won the league 12 times out the last 20.
lambert has done a wonder job at norwich.
pardews done well given resources.
not saying any of them are better but christ get a grip, wenger is nowhere near the best in the league. most of it's down to rvp.
if we were talking about wenger pre-2005 then deffo. but now
it really isnt.
he could have gone out and bought the players everyone knew we needed over the past few years to help us win the title. but he neglected our key problems and at the same time became a stubborn idiot. heck even the carling cup final last year was down to him, he's so mentally weak he can't motivate players to perform on the big stage and half our teams have been mentally crap (and before you say, 4 months of good football this season does not make up for years of shite).
if mourinho was in charge of our 07/08 team we would have won the league.
He's better than anyone bar Fergie which is what the initial post says and your post seems to agree with.
Knob.
Is he a good manager, without question, is he one of the best no IMO.
He's not managed any success in years and has made some awful mistakes, it really depends whether you think 3rd place is a great achievement and whether a manager accepting this as success is good enough.
Personally I don't think the best managers would have settled for this as easily as he seems to have, it's not just about satisfying your employers IMO, it's about trying to be the best out there and achieving success you can look back on with pride later on.
where did i say that?
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