Classy thread.
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
Such a thread could only have been started by a bitter City fan who had to agonizingly watch as Arsenal demolished the throng of mercenaries on the field of play.
So what your saying is Joker's a twat?
Disgusting the way N_Q is treated by Gregg's.
Seriously. . . .what a complete load of kak but to say Im not surprised is an understatement.
I do understand the sentiment that it may be a bit if a stretch to think that all of us wiuld forfeit our love for the club if someone came along and starting pumping obsence sums of money in to the club. I think we would say it was out of our control who bought the club and what they did with their money.
Hoever the fact that we are working to a model that allows for a certain amount of self subsistency should make a true fan proud. Now I do sit with the camp that it is all very well having such a self reliant lifestyle but if it aint being used to enrich the squad ie better players and only being diected into certain individuals wallets then something is amiss. The fan sees success on the pitch, the winning of trophies as the benchmark, they cheer a team that gives it its all and not a board that sees profit as the goal to be scored. At the moment the game has moneybag clubs like Citeh, who will show no mercy to those that fail, clubs like us trying to live within our means but missing that little something and the rest, those that make up the numbers. Does class come into it? Not sure.
I would say it is pretty classless to give a manager a handful of gsmes to produce success and then fire them at a bat of an eyelid but fuck it if you can, do it. Not doi g too bad now.
I would shudder if we bought in 300mils worth of talent only to ask most to leave after failing to win the league but hell if thats the budiness model and you can, who are we to argue.
On the flipside are we guilty of giving people too many chances, it that classless? No I dont think so either, I think we have limuted options and sometimes suffer because of that. Were we wrong, did we take a classless risk by lettimg Cesc and Nasri go. . .hell no, the latter had no class in the way he whored himself, Ade's name can be thrown into that mix. The classiest of them all SAF said Wenger was right. We hit rock bottom but we have had the class to pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off. Yes, no trophies again but a whole load of pride and it looks like we could get better.
Now some people define class as the ability to have a glass of wine after the game with the oppo manager, fuck off. . .how do you know what Wenger does. Most of the confrontations he has had have been with twats. Owen Coyle has a lot of nice things to say about AW and Wenger returns the sentiment.
What is classless is people starting threads like this just because they are looking for a new negative angle to hit the club with, I have not heard the geezer say one positive thing about the club, sure dont be tip toeing through the tulips about everything but FFS? We lose the first game in 8 matches and the guy would rather go on about that then the previous 7 wins.
I want us to win trophies, and would be willing to see us go into the red if it meant that would be the case but I laugh at when I see Citeh fuck things up, Liverpool are another who sopend tons but admittedly they have had a good cup year as have Chelsea, I believe we can get there and will do it the Arsenal way (frusting as it csn be at time!). . .but hell what can we do? . . . .start classy threads, huh!
:footnote: Chelseas some class but accepting a goal that clearly wasnt. . .seem to remember Wenger back in the day agreeing, change that suggesting to replay an FAC tie after a controversial goal. . .classy huh? oh sorry he didnt crack open a bottle of Blue Nun after the game with oppo (Bruce I believe) so doesnt count, right?
Good post that. Also...I have not heard the geezer say one positive thing about the club
We don't reserve the right to win everything, but we do reserve the right to try. The team is doing okay right now despite some major handicaps in terms of financing, whether enforced or self-imposed. Can we cry about these restrictions? Yes, and we do. But is the team performing on the pitch right now? Yes. And what fan could have a problem with that?The classiest of them all SAF said Wenger was right. We hit rock bottom but we have had the class to pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off. Yes, no trophies again but a whole load of pride and it looks like we could get better.
There's a certain destructiveness to this that makes no sense to me. Get rid of Wenger, just kick him out and then... everything will be better. Why? Nobody knows but let's just blow everything up anyway and see what happens. And I suppose if the next guy doesn't fare any better we get rid of him too and on it goes. Doesn't seem like a way forward to me. And this business about hoping we lose and lose big just to hasten the day when the bomb can be exploded, we'll that's just fucked up and people who want that sort of shit to happen seem to lack a passion for the moment. There's the season and then there's the 90 minutes on the pitch. In some ways hoping for disaster in those 90 minutes in order to somehow (never explained) influence this season or the season after is every bit as Machiavellian as the behaviour of the board and their long term non-investment agenda. They love the club too, they say. I'm not trying to start a fight but some people should have a re-think.
If we end up 11 points clear of the spuds by the time they next take to the pitch that'll be my season right there. Job done. Not so long ago we were saying we'd never catch them, now we have the chance to put them away in the most emphatic manner imaginable. And it all started during some half time talk where Wenger and RvP turned a 2-0 deficit into a 5-2 mauling of our greatest rivals. That's football for me, I'm more than happy to thrive on that. Petty tribal rivalries, yep, give me some of that.
Did we see any of this when the 8th goal went in vs Utd?
The team is doing well and so is the manager. Fight forthe shirt we said and that's what they are doing. Where's the problem?
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