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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    If Wenger thought he'd had a Hammy he'd have taken him off, it was down to the medical team being twits again who should have insisted he came off.

    The manager will only go on what the medical team and player say, if Theo told AW he was ok to play on i don't see why he'd take one of his "Star" Players off.
    And that's probably why we have a horrendous injury record, clueless idiots in charge all over the place!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    20:20 Hindsight
    No matter how you look at it, it was a bad decision. A decision that is made all the more shocking given our team's experiences with injured players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    drugs kicked again have they.

    Gev still better then Nasri is he

    Wenger still feeding the boys drugs
    Nobody was able to explain the difference between vegetables and steroids. it was another win on the internet for I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOBN View Post
    Nobody was able to explain the difference between vegetables and steroids. it was another win on the internet for I.
    Seeing that you were playing yourself.. . .I suppose you're right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    No, I'm calling it how I see it. Our injury record is poor, Geroge Graham said something needs to be done about our medical staff and I agree with him.
    What the hell would Graham know about what's going on in the club? Our current players back the medical staff, they should know better than anyone else what they're like to deal with.

    It's as if the club and manager can do no wrong in your eyes
    The manager who I said should have been sacked for the end of last season? The idea that a club at our level employs medical staff who are as idiotic as some are making out on here is laughable.

    Just call it how you see it
    I do.

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    our players are not going to say the medical staff are terrible.

    Can't make a completely informed judgement on their competence, but leaving aside the Walcott situation yesterday - we've had a surely unusual number of instances where injuries are misdiagnosed with the manager ending up looking completely clueless when giving injury news in press conferences. Vermaelen, Rosicky, Diaby, Wilshere - they've all had the 'two to three weeks' treatment when they're clinically dead. Questions certainly should be asked. The staff are obviously all qualified and that. Maybe it's the approach?

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    It is the number 1 problem at the club, by far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    It is the number 1 problem at the club, by far.
    This was quite interesting. Didn't read it all as it goes on a bit:

    http://le-grove.co.uk/2011/11/08/exc...eir-operation/

    Couple of parts worth quoting:

    Colin got stuck straight into some of the things that irked him, top of his list was using injury analysis site, Physio Room. He thinks the league tables are a nonsense, 1) because they take return dates from newspapers 2) because they don’t take into account the size of squads. Wigan being judged on 20 players is skewed when Arsenal are racking up points for 45. It also doesn’t take into account that we play in Europe. If you’re playing 60+ games versus 40, you’ll obviously feature higher in the league table as you have more pressure on your squad.
    I asked why our injury record was so much better last year in comparison to years gone past. This answer was quite interesting and definitely opened my eyes to the blurred grey lines when analysing injuries.

    Colin said 2 years ago we had a shocking season when it came to injuries. He said averagely, you expect 1-2 fractures in a year. They had 7. When 7 players suffer fractures, you reduce the squad by 7 players, then you put more strain on less players, which results in fatigue, which equates to more soft tissue injuries.

    So broken legs has a knock on effect for more than just the player suffering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over View Post
    Shouldnt be legenfs are even better than legends but not as high legenks :wink:
    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    What the hell would Graham know about what's going on in the club? Our current players back the medical staff, they should know better than anyone else what they're like to deal with.


    The manager who I said should have been sacked for the end of last season? The idea that a club at our level employs medical staff who are as idiotic as some are making out on here is laughable.


    I do.
    The clue is in your first post. Straight away without all of the facts, you jump in on the defensive as if mistakes weren't made. Wenger says he should have come off and instead of dealing with that, you're talking about how my posts are always negative. Doesn't seem to me like you're calling things how you see it. Not in regards to Arsenal and football anyway. Seems silly to argue against our injury record.

    George Graham is a football manager and no fool. This isn't even a dig at Wenger. It's not his fault that his physio gave him the wrong info, but he needs to examine the staff and the information he's getting. Wilshere is out for the season because of bad information. It was the same for Vermaelen. Cesc kept on having hamstring injuries before he left And we've had countless other players that have been out for months when we've originally been told it will take weeks. As GG said, most of the problems aren't contact injuries. Most of it happens in training sired it's some sort of muscle pull/tear while running.

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    Agree with that. You can't make comparisons with smaller squads in fewer competitions. But (without looking at figures) I'm quite sure Man City and Liverpool have had far fewer issues than Arsenal. City had the CL until the groups, and then wherever they went in the Europa, and Liverpool have gone all the way in both domestic cups. Even leaving that aside, it's constantly worrying when there are vibes of uncertainty coming out of press conferences and injury updates. And it's more worrying when the updates are spectacularly off course - e.g. the seriousness of Wilshere, Rosicky and Vermaelen's injuries. For the latter two it took an age to find the root cause. They still haven't after a season for Wilshere. Bloody horse placenta for van Persie. Diaby's seems a special case with the horror leg break.

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