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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    And that extra 25 million quid comes from revenue generated from CL football, merchandise sale, home games etc. Utd has debt payments too.. please do not forget that!
    Their revenue is far superior to ours. And if you'd read or paid any attention to the real financial analysis that has been posted on here in massive detail, you'd realise why we are so far behind in those stakes, what we are trying to do to close that gap, and how it is not simply down to the very basic "WENGER HAS 50MILLION WARCHEST" theory that most keyboard bashers churn out all the time.
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    Easy said then done.
    You're right, but if you're meant to be a top manager (as many on this board claim he is) you're supposed to find these players, or at least make a better fist of it than Wenger's done in the last 5 years. Even Alan Pardew as able to find some top players in France, players that Wenger, who is supposed to be an expert on French football, completely missed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    If it was not given to him to spend, then why is he still with us? Which manager who is used to winning would one day want to work with so many constraints? He can resign, you know.. or may be he is too busy lining his pockets.
    i don't know. But if your so bothred you can ask him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    If it was not given to him to spend, then why is he still with us? Which manager who is used to winning would one day want to work with so many constraints? He can resign, you know.. or may be he is too busy lining his pockets.
    Someone who bleeds the red and white of Arsenal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joker View Post
    You're right, but if you're meant to be a top manager (as many on this board claim he is) you're supposed to find these players, or at least make a better fist of it than Wenger's done in the last 5 years.
    Even Alan Pardew as able to find some top players in France, players that Wenger, who is supposed to be an expert on French football, completely missed
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    Who did Pardew find Ben Arfa.Caybaye more fool you if you think he found them.

    Problem is when they were available last season we never needed them.

    maybe had they been avaliable last summerwe may have gone from them.

    But from someone who think RVP is shite id be happy if Wenger did not take advie from you on what quality is or who he should have gone for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joker View Post
    He also said we actually had money to spend, and that we were no longer as constrained by stadium debt payments as before. So what did he do with this money? A lot of it apparently wasn't spent, and what was spend was wasted on turds like Gervinho and Squillaci.
    He gambles. We all know that. Squid was a gamble. Gervinho is too....though he has another season to prove himself.

    He also bought Vermaelen, Koscielny and Sagna when we were crying out for a defence. People poo-poo'd them...and now look. Fuckin EPIC.

    It's gambling with smaller funds than the leading pack who can just spunk it all on who they want without worrying about the business....

    He's been wring with a lot of things, has Wenger, but I'm not gonna pick over the amounts he's spent. Relatively, he's done alright.
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    Who did Pardew find Ben Arfa.Caybaye more fool you if you think he foud them.
    Eh he signed him didn't he, and managed to get those players and took a chance on them? I'm not saying he signed them when they were 16 years old and were signed as part of a youth project, but he realised there ability and took a punt. These are exactly the type of players we need, they wouldn't cost a fortune, are at a good age and therefore have enough experience to come into the side immediately.

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    Can't wait until this season is over and done with.

    Bring on the Euros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joker View Post
    Eh he signed him didn't he, and managed to get those players and took a chance on them? I'm not saying he signed them when they were 16 years old and were signed as part of a youth project, but he realised there ability and took a punt. These are exactly the type of players we need, they wouldn't cost a fortune, are at a good age and therefore have enough experience to come into the side immediately.
    Well obvoulsly but they were well known players before this, they just were sought after by the big clubs simples.

    Like i said in hindsight its easy to say we should have signed them but had we did and they turned out poor you'd bethe 1st on here to moan.

    Mind you you'd moan if we signed them and they turned out world class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    Well obvoulsly but they were well known players before this, they just were sought after by the big clubs simples.

    Like i said in hindsight its easy to say we should have signed them but had we did and they turned out poor you'd bethe 1st on here to moan.

    Mind you you'd moan if we signed them and they turned out world class.
    Obviously there's an element of risk whenever you're signing a player, but it's not as if the probability is 50% that they'll turn out good and 50% they won't regardless of the player you sign. Getting signings right demands high quality judgement, and the high number of failures that Wenger has signed recently (I admit there have been exceptions like Koscielny) indicates that, at least in the last 5 years, Wenger has not displayed good footballing judgement and cannot be called a top class manager.

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