So, how do WE win the league?

[Boss]

As a few have said, there is no chance of winning the league while we have Wenger as manager. He's just not good enough, unfortunately. I do think we can challenge for the league, perhaps even strongly next year depending on what we do in the transfer market, but there is no chance of winning it.

[Letters]

As a few have said, there is no chance of winning the league while we have Wenger as manager. He's just not good enough, unfortunately. I do think we can challenge for the league, perhaps even strongly next year depending on what we do in the transfer market, but there is no chance of winning it.

Do you think we could reasonably have expected to do better than 3rd this year though?
I agree we should have been closer to the top 2 but City...well, who can compete with City? Utd did well to hang onto their coattails but when you can spend that sort of money it's difficult to stay with them.

[fakeyank]

New manager is the simplest solution

Also fixing our biggest problem would help, the injuries. Its ridiculous the likes of Wilshere is out for the whole season with an injury that was supposed to keep him out for a few weeks. Sagna breaks the same leg i think from just controlling a ball clearly proving it wasnt healed. Theres the Diaby situation. Fair enough hes a bit shit but that isnt the point.

Bringing in quality players instead of run of the mill Pub Team players/French Africans/youngsters with potential cos we havent got the time to wait for them to come good.

Get a killer instinct. We dont score enough goals for the chances we create.

Plan B. Wengeritis football rarely works.

Go back to 4-4-2. 4-3-3/4-5-1 has been a failure. 4-4-2 is what we won all the trophies under.

Better mentality. We crumble under the slightest of pressure and we all know how we are after a big defeat.

Bring in Usmanov. If you cant beat them, join them

Agree with everything except the last part. I think Arsenal as a club has decent resources monetarily to challenge for the domestic title. The manager definitely needs to go and we need some fresh ideas.

[Letters]

Agree with everything except the last part. I think Arsenal as a club has decent resources monetarily to challenge for the domestic title.

You keep saying this but how can we compete financially with City, Chelsea (who have billionaire backers) or Utd (who don't but whose income is far bigger than ours?)

[Cripps_orig]

Agree with everything except the last part. I think Arsenal as a club has decent resources monetarily to challenge for the domestic title. The manager definitely needs to go and we need some fresh ideas.

Well we need a new board for sure.

A board that wont bend over for Wengers ways

[Niall_Quinn]

Well we need a new board for sure.

A board that wont bend over for Wengers ways

This confusion again, the board hires Wenger - it's not the other way around.

[fakeyank]

You keep saying this but how can we compete financially with City, Chelsea (who have billionaire backers) or Utd (who don't but whose income is far bigger than ours?)

I am not saying go head to head with City or Chelsea monetarily. I am saying, use existing resources more efficiently like Utd. Utd's income is bigger but so is their debt. Our board seems inept but so are theirs. The difference is in the managers way of working. While I admit that SAF is in a completely different league, I think a manager who doesnt want to settle for 4th would be a good start. Something that we definitely CAN do is have a better tactical manager. It has nothing to do with money.

I am asking AW to spend whatever we get in transfers from player sales and may be 10-15 million quid on top of that (if needed). Surely a club our size can do that and if the board is coming in the way of AW spending 10-15 million a season or just the money we make off of transfers, he should quit. I just do not see any two ways in this case. AW is not an accountant at AFC.. he should be responsible in his spending but his primary worry should not be how player sales will affect pre-tax/post tax profits!

[Letters]

I am not saying go head to head with City or Chelsea monetarily. I am saying, use existing resources more efficiently like Utd. Utd's income is bigger but so is their debt. Our board seems inept but so are theirs. The difference is in the managers way of working. While I admit that SAF is in a completely different league, I think a manager who doesnt want to settle for 4th would be a good start. Something that we definitely CAN do is have a better tactical manager. It has nothing to do with money.

I am asking AW to spend whatever we get in transfers from player sales and may be 10-15 million quid on top of that (if needed). Surely a club our size can do that and if the board is coming in the way of AW spending 10-15 million a season or just the money we make off of transfers, he should quit. I just do not see any two ways in this case. AW is not an accountant at AFC.. he should be responsible in his spending but his primarily worry should not be how player sales will affect pre-tax/post tax profits!

Fair enough

[Niall_Quinn]

I am not saying go head to head with City or Chelsea monetarily. I am saying, use existing resources more efficiently like Utd. Utd's income is bigger but so is their debt. Our board seems inept but so are theirs. The difference is in the managers way of working. While I admit that SAF is in a completely different league, I think a manager who doesnt want to settle for 4th would be a good start. Something that we definitely CAN do is have a better tactical manager. It has nothing to do with money.

I am asking AW to spend whatever we get in transfers from player sales and may be 10-15 million quid on top of that (if needed). Surely a club our size can do that and if the board is coming in the way of AW spending 10-15 million a season or just the money we make off of transfers, he should quit. I just do not see any two ways in this case. AW is not an accountant at AFC.. he should be responsible in his spending and not worry how player sales will affect pre-tax/post tax profits!

We should have been able to spend what we earned plus A FORTUNE on top but Stan had to service a swamp of greedy leeches when he arrived. They sucked all the cash out for themselves and allowed none of it back into the team. These fat sucking sacks of blood and shit are the reason there's no investment. And Wenger's role has obviously been to make a profit with transfers. For whom? He gets paid anyway, who stands to gain from sucking the blood out of the team and the fans? Been here a million (billion) times with this argument but if you watch where the money is flowing it tells the real story. Some even say there HAS been investment but it was blown on silly wages. That's not true either because Arsenal adds everything down to the Christmas bonus paid to the tea lady into those calculations. What we could do with is for Stan to burn the leeches off and then let us all know what his plans are. If he plans to bleed the club like the last lot he'll say nothing I suppose. If he plans to put the sport back into the equation one indicator might be a clear out of crusty old antiques. I suppose we have to wait and give him a chance but if we see the likes of Peter Hill ****StainVampire and Chips AnalFuckWadGiantSuckingTurd in the boardroom come August (you know, "their sort") it will mean more of the same old shit. Keep a steady course and pump the cash out.

[AKBapologist]

It's funny, people getting pissed off about results against *newly promoted teams* (none of which got relegated btw) and clubs like wigan or stoke who happy out played or out muscled our nearest rivals.

The quality gap between 17th and 3rd this season has been the smallest I've seen, hell, even the notion of city or united going unbeaten was wishful thinking at best even before winter. Teams who massively outspent us like the Chav's and Pool cling on to cups whilst ruefully wondering, what the fuck now? Where's stamford bridge telling us that our manager is holding us back today?

Sure, last summer was fucking unforgivable, and even the nearest hint of complacency with transfers and I don't think he'll have a prayer with the supporters next season - but there seams to be a certain myopic belief amongst that because Wenger isn't SAF, he's automatically shit. He's got strengths and weaknesses, despite what people think, beyond injuries and lack of spending, the squad doesn't suffer the same problems season after season (compare set piece goals conceded with last season for example) - So in the season where Man City have categorically, without a doubt, proven that money is the most important factor in winning *trophies* (In a game incidentally, that followed the same pattern as ours, with similar defensive mistakes against 10 man newly promoted, would be relegation fodder QPR!!!!) - I'm prepared to give AW and the club a little bit of slack, prepared to treat 3rd as a trophy and enjoy all the privileges and bragging rights that come with it, whilst feeling hopeful about the future.