no, don't cop out again.Originally Posted by AKBapologist
you started giving it the big 'un, so answer the points.
are we bigger than the cups now?
are the fans stupid for wanting to win one of them?
as no one is good enough in the whole world, what do we do when wenger dies, shut up shop?
Yeah, you've stopped making sense now. (well, you did a while ago but *shrugs*)
What a shit thread.
I mean, it started out well, but quickly descended into a cripple fight.
let me spoon fed you again:
IF all those managers, none who still have there jobs at those clubs, have won cups, what does that say about the cups?
are we bigger than the cups now?
IF all those managers, none who still have there jobs at those clubs, have won cups, what does that say about the cups?
Ideally, give him a billion pounds and the pressure to spend it. It's much more likely to get us instant success than replacing him with anyone available.
as no one is good enough in the whole world, what do we do when wenger dies, shut up shop?
surely even you, the master of avoiding answering a question directly can figure that out?
yes lets talk about sand coons and avoid giving any sort of valid comment about arsenal.
What a shit thread.
I mean, it started out well, but quickly descended into a cripple fight.
thats what the forum is for right?
Last edited by Kano; 15-05-2012 at 11:12 AM.
I take full responsibility for the thread turning to shit.
I get blamed for everything else tbh
Well said, that's another reason why more people don't join this forum, when so many threads are full of racist references to Arabs. Those who make these comments will say, "Oh we're only joking", but what does it look like to a guest to the forum?
Harsh
Mods* are doing a fine job of modding this forum**
* By Mods i dont mean Maccy
** Note the sarcasm
Me.
We've been good for at least a couple of trophies in the long, long, painful, disastrous seven years. The margin between success and what-some-consider-to-be failure is very small and a bit of luck would've seen us pick up a league or FA Cup or something. It's not just luck, there have been some mental issues that have been responsible too, but you don't have to be a perfect team to win. As I say, little things going for us here and there and we'd have had some 'success'. I don't worry too much about that. We could win another trophy with Wenger in charge. I know the whole point of a messageboard is to share opinions but the bullish "this will never happen", 'that can't happen', 'we can't finish above Tottenham now' stuff, I take with a pinch of salt.
Obviously the issue is more whether Wenger our best chance to progress; not just picking up a domestic cup trophy but getting us to compete for the title. Maybe the manager should remain less reactionary than the fans - many of us might've lost patience with Van Persie and sold him for his injury troubles, but I think a manager should be more proactive. The tactics and lack of direction on the pitch this season has been awful management. Wenger's best chance of getting success is filling a squad with talented players and hoping they sort it out themselves. Have a strong leader (which I think Van Persie is) and a few fighters in midfield. I think we've badly missed Wilshere but losing all 3 (Nasri, Fabregas and Wilshere) was a massive handicap. Having just one of them available would've made a massive difference because we don't seem to have any creative midfielders right now. That's something that needs to be sorted out for next season.
But rather than Wenger's tactical failings (I think it's natural for fans to over-analyse that. It really does happen at every club that fans think "why the fuck is he playing? What was X doing for the goal conceded? etc), it's more that I don't believe he will demand what it takes to become the best. I think he wants to win. But I think he is too optimistic and is looking for too many 'maybes' like Diaby or Wilshere to turn into a 'yes' like for Van Persie this season.
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