Should we just accept our lot as a club?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

too much emphasis is placed on the league, making this a very black and white argument.

If we aimed for some cups, then that is an acceptable middle ground that would appease most people.

If we accept we can’t win the league and any cups, then it really is time to close the doors.

stoke we ain’t.

I'd hope the played believed they could win the league regardless what the fans think. and id like to think they show that spirit the invincible's had.

But i think We need that winning mentality before we worry about winning the league. The club not just the manager but everyone in it needs to show ambition and aim higher or get left behind.