The Liverpool Thread 2017/2018 featuring Jurgen Klopp

[Niall_Quinn]

why would Klopp leave a club in the CL to manage one who is not. No way they'd get him.

Money, history, chance to be a legend and money.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Money, history, chance to be a legend and money.

True, but id guess he want to manage at the highest level. It could take a while before pool get back in the Cl and he may not want to be just another statistic tbh.

[Syn]

why would Klopp leave a club in the CL to manage one who is not. No way they'd get him.

I was talking about for Arsenal.

[Kano]

spot on. it's not just about what he's done at wigan because when you strip it all away, the bigger picture looks bleak. scouting networks, authority, respect are just a few things that come to mind. he's got a very local scouting network (bar the odd signing from abroad) since he's been at wigan and he's been buying quite a few championship players. at liverpool you can't do that. you need top top players to get you into top 4 and it will take a long time to build that network ingenuity. with several key board members leaving anfield too, you really have to question where he's going to get some input from. yes comolli and co got it wrong on several players but they had global market knowledge mainly due to their work at previous clubs. martinez will be struggling in that sense, and with little support around him, is going to be a very lonely figure. just seems bizarre that the board would get rid of an anfield legend and replace him with a relegation candidate. talk about stoking the fans with fire and taking a huge risk. on the flip side he's absolutely amazing with the press and will help promote the liverpool 'brand' across the US, especially with this new behind the scenes documentary they've planned.

there was a good piece written by david conn in the guardian today talking about the changes off the field and the work needed to restructure off the pitch. martinez fits their bill in many ways; a football philosophy, premier experience, young, as you say a great image and perhaps more importantly, happy to work on revised budgets which must surely be the case after last summer.

this season was probably a short, sharp shock to the americans who thought they could just repair their handling of hodgson quite simply with a club legend, and away they go. their baseball side is not faring too well at the moment and a dose of reality in the prem may have forced them work on a slower plan back into the top 4, which given 2-3 seasons, could be achieved by martinez. whether the fans would get on board with that is another thing.


sib - true, he hasn't been hired yet but it's hard to see him saying no and usually the first approached quite publicly tends to go all the way.

[Cripps_orig]

LIVERPOOL legend John Barnes has called for the FA to introduce a SACKING window!

Barnes reckons his idea would ease the pressure on under-fire bosses during the football season.

His call comes a day after the Reds sacked Kenny Dalglish following their dismal eighth-place finish in the Premier League.

Barnes said: “I’d like to advocate a sacking window.

“If there’s a transfer window, there should be a sacking window.

“If you hire a manager, you shouldn’t be able to sack him for a year.

"That will mean the fans will support the manager, instead of booing them after two months when things aren’t going well.

“If you don’t boo them, who knows what can be achieved?

“We don’t know what would have happened if Andre Villas-Boas had stayed at Chelsea, or if Roy Hodgson had stayed at Liverpool.

“I still believe it is the wrong decision to have knee-jerk reactions and sack managers."

Dalglish was axed after just 16-months into his second spell in charge at Anfield — despite leading the club to Carling Cup success this season.

The Scot also led the Reds to the FA Cup final but it was not enough to convince the club's American owners to hand him another season.

And Barnes, who was axed as Tranmere boss in 2009 after less than four months in charge, reckons Dalglish should have been given more time.

He said: “Kenny was not given long enough. Managers have to be given time.

"If Manchester United had sacked Alex Ferguson after two years of failure, where would they be now?

“A year is not enough for any manager.”

Dalglish came under fire for splashing almost £100million on expensive stars including Andy Carroll, Stewart Downing and Jordan Henderson — who have all failed to impress on Merseyside so far.

But Barnes warned whoever succeeds Dalglish in the Anfield hot seat to forget about having anything like that transfer kitty.

He added: “I don’t think the owners are going to say here’s another £100m to spend after the previous outlay.

“Regarding the new man, you can look at Roberto Martinez or Brendan Rodgers who have proved they have the right philosophy on how football should be played and are progressive managers.

“If Rafa Benitez comes back, I would support that.

“Looking at the Liverpool squad, you will see a marked improvement, whoever comes in.”

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...Liverpool.html

Barnes

He wants a sacking window so a manager cant be sacked til after a year. Kenny was in charge for 16 months...

Then he goes and says a year isnt enough for a manager then why have the sacking window?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Confirmed: Barnes wants assurances of full year before agreeing to join Liverpool Football Club.

It's on!

[Marc Overmars]

You've got to hold and give but do it at the right time...

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I have not seen an idea that bad since Teen Wolf TOO.

[Letters]

Confirmed: Barnes wants assurances of full year before agreeing to join Liverpool Football Club.

It's on!

Liverpool

[Letters]

I have not seen an idea that bad since Teen Wolf TOO.

"I know...let's make the exact same film...but worse!"