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    I agree that we are the ultimate expression of the marketisation of football. Sure, we're not the only example, but we are the ones who have embraced it most religiously. The reason why we're not in the spotlight is that the gradual change from football club to corporation that has taken place at Arsenal has been relatively subtle, especially since we've not been bought by an extrovert businessman with a lot of money to spend, like City and Chelsea, who face the greatest criticism because the expression of corporate interest is out in the open. While our board and Chief Exec may prattle on about sustainability and how we're not like other clubs like Chelsea and City, the reality is that we're in some ways much worse. With City and Chelsea, at least their owners actually care about winning trophies, although their motivation for that is not altruistic (they don't really care about the fans, but realise winning trophies is good for their ego and gives the businesses more publicity)
    I am not defending the business models of City and Chelsea or their owners in any way, but we can't be hypocritical and claim we're a paragon of virtue in comparison. Like another poster has said, we're a business first and a football club second. The main considerations that matter to the board is their return on their investment, property deals, profits, turnovers, etc etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Punchinello Beezo View Post
    Barca have had an offer of £40.3mil for Neymar accepted so i doubt they will now pay £45 for cesc
    Yeah but so have Chelsea,city, Madrid and other teams don't mean he is going to barca

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    ok so quite a few players are not in that. arshavin, cesc, rvp, theo, kos, sagna, song, jd, etc

    so i dont think we cant quite say cesc is gone because he isnt in it given some others missing from it

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    Who the fuck is Neymar and WHY is he worth £40m? ridiculous. Im so fed up of stupid money being spent on absolute NOBODY'S around the globe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Punchinello Beezo View Post
    Barca have had an offer of £40.3mil for Neymar accepted so i doubt they will now pay £45 for cesc

    but they have no money? they could only spend 40 million all summer. havnt they bid 30 million for sanchez or something too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joker View Post
    I agree that we are the ultimate expression of the marketisation of football. Sure, we're not the only example, but we are the ones who have embraced it most religiously. The reason why we're not in the spotlight is that the gradual change from football club to corporation that has taken place at Arsenal has been relatively subtle, especially since we've not been bought by an extrovert businessman with a lot of money to spend, like City and Chelsea, who face the greatest criticism because the expression of corporate interest is out in the open. While our board and Chief Exec may prattle on about sustainability and how we're not like other clubs like Chelsea and City, the reality is that we're in some ways much worse. With City and Chelsea, at least their owners actually care about winning trophies, although their motivation for that is not altruistic (they don't really care about the fans, but realise winning trophies is good for their ego and gives the businesses more publicity)
    I am not defending the business models of City and Chelsea or their owners in any way, but we can't be hypocritical and claim we're a paragon of virtue in comparison. Like another poster has said, we're a business first and a football club second. The main considerations that matter to the board is their return on their investment, property deals, profits, turnovers, etc etc.

    But don't you have to have to concentrate on business to try to compete with the sugar daddies? Its not like there's a third alternative, is there (well, apart from bankrupting yourself)? We can hardly be expected to buck the market altogether, and there is certainly some virtue in trying to be self-sustainable and develop rather than cherry pick the wordls best players/

    Not saying that we have the balance right - but I don't think the club can be censured for not trying to buy trophies with money that the club doesn't have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    Yeah but so have Chelsea,city, Madrid and other teams don't mean he is going to barca
    the point was that £38mil for Sanchez, £40mil for Neymar, fuck if they are going to spend another £45mil on aplayer they clearly arent that arse about

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    but they have no money? they could only spend 40 million all summer. havnt they bid 30 million for sanchez or something too?
    yep but they are selling David Villa to Chelsea apparently

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    Quote Originally Posted by Punchinello Beezo View Post
    yep but they are selling David Villa to Chelsea apparently
    ah ok but still they are still throwing money around. i believe taht sanchez and neymar are more likely to be bought then villa sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alias View Post
    Who the fuck is Neymar and WHY is he worth £40m? ridiculous. Im so fed up of stupid money being spent on absolute NOBODY'S around the globe.
    The next Brazilian star apparently.

    40m is his release clause btw, not just a random figure clubs are bidding.

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