Rubbish, We have only Recently got Rich Owners Same with the mancs and even before we got them we were able to win the league through what we earned, City and Chavs were not its that simple.Originally Posted by Joker
Rubbish, We have only Recently got Rich Owners Same with the mancs and even before we got them we were able to win the league through what we earned, City and Chavs were not its that simple.
Good points made.
I've heard people say the Spanish league is boring and uncompetitive because or the riches of Barca and Madrid, there is a massive gap between the quality there and most teams can only dream of winning the league. It would take a sugar daddy for them to be able to compete. And compete is the key word here not win.
Also, the smaller clubs in Spain that can't compete still manage to win Copa del Rey's or UEFA Cups. Look Atheltico Madrid, Sevilla and Valencia. We haven't been able to win anything in 7 years so money is no excuse.
If - BIG IF - the fair play rules are used as intended and attempts to fudge or find loopholes are dealt with firmly, then yes, it will be great for clubs like ours. However, I will believe it when I see it. Having seen the wonderful 'caring about the sport' shit from FIFA and UEFA when it just remains as a few at the top lining their pockets - like Blatter and his followers - concentrating on irrelevancies instead of the important issues, I will only be convinced when teams running an insane deficit like Citeh really are banned from the CL. And would the FA have the balls to apply it to the PL? No chance.
It would be a nice dream - it is a nice dream - but I can't see it happening. For instance, since it is imminent, where is the warning from UEFA to Citeh that they will need to make changes in the next year to be ready? Or are they going to just chop them at the time the rule comes into place with no further warning. I doubt it.
We're complaining about football being boring because it's obvious who's going to win, but it's only been the first season that City have won the league, and at the end of the day it was on goal difference. If we had owners who cared about trophies and a more tactically astute manager, I think we could be challenging for the league, along with Man Utd, Chelsea, maybe Liverpool as well. The takeovers have increased competition in the Premier League, and that's got to be a good thing.
What do you think other teams were thinking from the the mid 90s until 2005, when it was only us or Utd winning the league? They probably felt football was becoming boring, with only two teams with a chance of winning the league.
Neither of us bought the league though. Everything was down to team building and how good the managers were
Yes because teams still don't think this now. I mean there is so much Chance for Villa And Everton and Barcodes and Fulham to go and win the league no competition at all.
Are fans of these clubs Jealous moaners too.
Wenger had to introduce foreign players to win the league.
Yes because Cantona, Kanchelskis were all English.
With money we as a club earned
Sure, but that was because the other teams were not up to it. Some of them could have competed had they chosen to make the effort. Clubs like Liverpool and Newcastle, for instance, have a massive fan base and should have been able to compete on the financial side at the time (before the sugar daddy shit started) - but they did not invest wisely in getting good managers who could last over time.
I have said before that football was better when I started watching in the early 1970s where there were half a dozen teams who, at the start of the season, could have felt they had a realistic chance of making a title challenge, so when you won it, there was a big sense of achievement. At any one time there might be a couple of teams that are the more likely candidates but they used to come and go more often. Before the PL started up, only Liverpool dominated for a long period but at lease that was not based on cash. It was based on having Shankly and then Paisley build up a team and a mentality over a long period.
A lot of the failing clubs who should have been competing in recent years might take a look at how often they change their manager and have to pretty well start again, then wonder why they never win anything.
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