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    Quote Originally Posted by Ach View Post
    Look on the brightside

    Spuds are out of the CL and Barca didnt win the CL. The latter happening would have been much worse for football

    That is the reality
    Meh its not the worst thing in the world to happen tbh. Least this means the old boys will be fecking off soon. I guess it also means Chavs to Spend another Billion in the summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    I've heard people say the Spanish league is boring and uncompetitive because or the riches of Barca and Madrid, there is a massive gap between the quality there and most teams can only dream of winning the league.
    Spain have provided the most champions, with thirteen wins from two clubs. Italy have produced twelve winners from three clubs and England have produced twelve winners from five clubs
    Guess which 2 Spanish clubs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coney View Post
    Guess which 2 Spanish clubs?
    That's not up for dispute but the lower sides that can't compete with the league still win the Copa del Rey and UEFA Cup. Money is a factor but you can't use that excuse to coat over our 7 trophyless years. Wenger isn't a good tactician and web he first came here he was able to take advantage of the transfer market and win the league but he was never able to win the Champions League because he's poor at adapting to over teams and he didn't have an advantage on the player side. Now he's struggling because most clubs have invested in their scouting networks and it's no secret of who the next big star is in this age.

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    The reality is we will never win the champions league with Wenger. We didn't with the two most talented teams in the 2000's, didn't make a impact at all ,so there is no chance with this team or any future team of Wenger's. As ernesto said its a mentality thing Wenger's teams aren't capable of taking the final step to greatness. I cant think of a great comeback either great sides usually have one united had plenty in 99, barcelona needed one in 09. In the biggest moments when it look lost they've never produced like chelsea have. Most of their luck they had was because of their belief do you think barcelona would miss all those chances against us nah they would bury most of them because Chelsea are a far more intimidating team to play against as well as basically much more organised. The table may say we're 3rd and their 6th but I still think they're a much better team than us.

    Maybe Henry, bergkamp, pires etc were not as tough as drogba, lampard and co or scholes, rooney and others but I think its a combination of their mentalty and Wengers as well as his tactical and motivational ability.
    We need change. Its been said before, but Chelsea winning the champions league (while wenger and team celebrated 3rd like it it was the first time ever) really hits home what a waste these years have been. Wenger is not going to change Chelsea winning the champions league wont bother him he'll excuse it to money he couldn't possibly compete but Tottenham could win it too and it would not bother him. When you see him agonizing on the touchline you think maybe he's had enough sees its not working. But then the next interview championing his time, listing all the excuses praising mental strength, crushing our hopes of a decent transfer comes as well his smug press conferences.
    At the end of the day the man is working against us and is in it for himself and is a hypocrite. I don't think he loves the club or respects the fans that much. We have a board who are happy to do the bare mininum and charge the highest tickets in the world. The least we could have is a manger who fights to have the best available for his team

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