Super Super Quality Transfer Speculation & Shit

[Özim]

gervinho played in the same team as hazard and actually did well so just like gervinho hazard could be utter shit in this league. he is unproven, hell even chamkh scored goals in france.

sol campbell and pires had actually done something when they were whoring themselves out but i never remember them going everyday to another club when the press suddenly report that x club will up his wage more then y club is offering. (i could be wrong but i cant remember that happening)

lets say hazard goes to city, you say top players getting fourth every year can leave for a club with ambition so using nasri here. hazard is likely to replace him at city so if you were nasri would you be happy with just one season of winning the league to be replaced to nothing but a bench player for the odd game?

Gervinho played in the same team but he was not in the same league as Hazard, the latter was always considered the gem hence the reason Lille wouldn't sell him before..there's no comparison between the two.

I don't hear money being involved, the clubs he mentions are all successful clubs, why wouldn't he want to go there....is it a crime to win now?

I don't want him to go to City, I don't want to see other teams being strengthened, I want to see us getting stronger not the other way round.

I'm not happy playing fiddle to anyone, does anyone actually remember the 4th placed team/person in any sport?

[Ollie the Optimist]

Gervinho played in the same team but he was not in the same league as Hazard, the latter was always considered the gem hence the reason Lille wouldn't sell him before..there's no comparison between the two.

I don't hear money being involved, the clubs he mentions are all successful clubs, why wouldn't he want to go there....is it a crime to win now?

I don't want him to go to City, I don't want to see other teams being strengthened, I want to see us getting stronger not the other way round.

I'm not happy playing fiddle to anyone, does anyone actually remember the 4th placed team/person in any sport?

then i dont know what planet you are on. even city are thinking of pulling out of the deal because of his wage demands. if you were a talented player like he is, and chelsea, city and united were in for you. united surely stand out, there is more pride winning with them then the others and also more likely to give you a chance. a few crap games and dzeko was kicked out and they spunked another 20 odd million on someone else

[Özim]

then i dont know what planet you are on. even city are thinking of pulling out of the deal because of his wage demands. if you were a talented player like he is, and chelsea, city and united were in for you. united surely stand out, there is more pride winning with them then the others and also more likely to give you a chance. a few crap games and dzeko was kicked out and they spunked another 20 odd million on someone else

There's other factors, like living in London going to a club most likely to win and liking the manager/style.

Maybe he see's Man City as the future and fancies playing with players like Aguero and Tevez, star players can also help attract other players, we use ot have the same thing when we had Henry, Vieira and co.

[Unai Tea]

There's other factors, like living in London going to a club most likely to win and liking the manager/style.

Maybe he see's Man City as the future and fancies playing with players like Aguero and Tevez, star players can also help attract other players, we use ot have the same thing when we had Henry, Vieira and co.

Blah blah blah why can't we be more like Man City and show ambition blah blah blah.

Total nonsense.

[Özim]

Blah blah blah why can't we be more like Man City and show ambition blah blah blah.

Total nonsense.

Not really, other clubs have ambitions, whether is be Spurs, Liverpool or City. They wouldn't just be happy staying in 4th place once they got there, they'd aim to win, we don't those are the hard facts I'm afraid.

You've seen 6 years of bottling it and settling for 4th and you think we have ambition, settling for what you've got isn't ambition, it's stagnation.

[selassie]

Honestly, I don't think we're seen as an attractive proposition anymore both home & or abroad, at least not by "elite" semi-proven talent like Hazard. Regardless of whether we'd compete financially with the likes of Citeh, Man United or Chelsea, these clubs IMHO are seen as a much more attractive option than us. Why on earth would a player choose us over them?

We're firmly rooted as a 2nd tier club now. Unless we groom homegrown talent & start to seriously challenge, I really cannot see why any "top" player would want to stay here long term, we're at best seen as a stepping stone type club.

The likes of Hazard, M'Vila (if we do manage to sign him) would only be here for a few years to develop their game before the big guns come calling.

If I'm honest I think our player recruitment policy is pretty useless, has been for a few years now. Don't get me wrong, we make some good signings from time to time, but we make more than our fair share of dud buys and it shows a lot more know that we're not a successful club.

I also think we need to really improve on tieing our players down to lengthy contracts, I accept that our stars want to move on to bigger and better things but I really wish we wouldnt leave ourselves exposed to getting ripped off when we sell our stars.

I accept it's not all doom and gloom but I think this summer is going to be extremely painful, we can't even strengthen our squad because we need to get rid of so much dross, they are on high wages too. It's almost unbelievable that we're paying relatively high wages for players that no one wants to touch, yet we dither in the market when relatively decent players become available for prices well within our budget.

[Unai Tea]

Not really, other clubs have ambitions, whether is be Spurs, Liverpool or City. They wouldn't just be happy staying in 4th place once they got there, they'd aim to win, we don't those are the hard facts I'm afraid.

You've seen 6 years of bottling it and settling for 4th and you think we have ambition, settling for what you've got isn't ambition, it's stagnation.

The only way to match the ambition of the mansouri's and abramovich's is to get a usmanov. That or massively improve our income. You characterise our lack of Aguero and Tevez and, very shortly, Hazard as an indictment of a lack of ambition. That's a joke. There are teams without financial constraints of any kind and there are the others who have to live within their means. Because Abramovich has a £500m yacht and I don't does that mean I lack ambition? You may as well demand I go win the lottery, and not the shitty £10m payout kind either.

By all means criticise the club for making poor decisions on things within their control, there are plenty of grievances. But don't be daft and criticise the club for not being completely free of financial constraint and claim it shows a lack of ambition vis-a-vis Man City, Chelsea or any of the other billionaire toy clubs.

[selassie]

The only way to match the ambition of the mansouri's and abramovich's is to get a usmanov. That or massively improve our income. You characterise our lack of Aguero and Tevez and, very shortly, Hazard as an indictment of a lack of ambition. That's a joke. There are teams without financial constraints of any kind and there are the others who have to live within their means. Because Abramovich has a £500m yacht and I don't does that mean I lack ambition? You may as well demand I go win the lottery, and not the shitty £10m payout kind either.

By all means criticise the club for making poor decisions on things within their control, there are plenty of grievances. But don't be daft and criticise the club for not being completely free of financial constraint and claim it shows a lack of ambition vis-a-vis Man City, Chelsea or any of the other billionaire toy clubs.

Well I personally think we do the "bare" minimum to strengthen the squad, we're forever going for the "cheaper" option. Gervinho was basically the cheaper option last season when we were courting Mata. The fact that Mata become available for a price within our means for me is indictative of our lousy transfer policy, why on earth did we dither???

[Unai Tea]

Well I personally think we do the "bare" minimum to strengthen the squad, we're forever going for the "cheaper" option. Gervinho was basically the cheaper option last season when we were courting Mata. The fact that Mata become available for a price within our means for me is indictative of our lousy transfer policy, why on earth did we dither???

Yes, we've not done as much as we could have. Blame the board, blame wenger, blame silent stan. Who knows. Maybe they actually believe we're good enough. Maybe they're struggling under the weight of too many overpaid, under-performing young players and never will be's. I don't know. It's a long way though from 'coulda done more' to 'lookit city, they have tevez and aguero, at least they show ambition'.

[selassie]

Yes, we've not done as much as we could have. Blame the board, blame wenger, blame silent stan. Who knows. Maybe they actually believe we're good enough. Maybe they're struggling under the weight of too many overpaid, under-performing young players and never will be's. I don't know. It's a long way though from 'coulda done more' to 'lookit city, they have tevez and aguero, at least they show ambition'.

Spurs show more ambition than us, that in itself says it all for me.