Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
Let's all just agree that he's a little flag dragon and be done with it.
Let's all just agree that he's a little flag dragon and be done with it.
I dont understand why its wrong for a player to chose more money.
Playing time at Chelsea = Playing time at Utd
The thing that made a difference was money and what the fuck is wrong in that? You wouldnt think twice if a company paid better.. why cant a player do that? This is ridiculous.. the loyalty bollocks!
using nasri as a player here, you ahve to question why he didnt perform, CC final being prime example, when big players needed, he went missing cos he didnt care. why should the manager take all the blame for players not performing? yes he is to blame a bit for them not performing but players take the blame too.
also we had a better season last year with shitter players then the year before. lots more fight and pride, comebacks etc. if you saw wengers reactions the last few seasons can you honestly say he doesnt care about success? if you believe that you are a moron, that man cares so much, he wants to win yet the board say fifth would be ok etc. that shows me where the blame is. wenger wants to win but wont quit on us while the board hold us back.
if a top player doesnt want to come to us then fine, they dont have too. would rather see players like arteta come in and fight for the team then big name ones who think they have made at the age of 21.
also general point here, in the last two years chavs have spent about 200 million while making a loss. FFP anyone?
Of course.
You might have descended into the pits of cynicism a long time ago, but that doesn't mean that he didn't at one point think about joining us. He's international team mates with Verm, who will have undoubtedly spoken to him about life at Arsenal etc etc. Sure he may not have fully meant those words, doesn't mean he didn't say them though. And that's the point really. He's a merc with no apparent loyalties as of yet. But he might find that at Chelsea, who knows.What that he dreams of playing for us or Real Madrid?
Madrid perhaps but us, really? Come on, 7-8 years ago maybe but not nowadays, he might have nightmares about it though, watching the defence gift goals away and the forward loop simple chances over the bar
In addition after the excitement of the the PL season and the CL maybe he liked what he saw about English football.
ThisI'm actually pretty sure they're not
Although nothing wrong in keeping your options open so dont see anything wrong with what he said
i fail to see what he would like about chelsea then. all they did against barca and bayern was park the bus. no player got forward really. hardly great if you are an attacker. at least united and city attack and play footballWhat that he dreams of playing for us or Real Madrid?
Madrid perhaps but us, really? Come on, 7-8 years ago maybe but not nowadays, he might have nightmares about it though, watching the defence gift goals away and the forwards loop simple chances over the bar
In addition after the excitement of the the PL season and the CL maybe he liked what he saw about English football.
They scored more goals than Barcelona over 2 games.
Pretty impressive if none of their players went forward.
Defending is just as much a part of football as attacking and Chelsea defended better than Barca or Bayern attacked.
Simples. I hate the ****s but credit has to be given
The manager takes most of the blame yes, he signs the players, should motivate them and get the best out of them that's his job. He chose to let the players turn up in tracksuits and not to instill discipline, that's his fault and we paid the price for a lack of proffesionalism.
We've been through this before, he's happy with 4th, he hails it as a great achievements and has money as his cop out, the guy isn't a winner these days not unless you consider 4th place winning (sad but true), I've never seen a top manager so proud of getting 4th place every season and never win anything, you won't find another top manager like it either because they want to win that's what makes them top managers. When they don't they make changes and do everything they can to change that, this chump just sits on his arse and makes excuses about waiting periods, super super quality and not wanting to kill his young players, he's becoming a joke if he hasn't already tbh.
The board are a problem, but he's part of that, he picks up his 7+ million a year and pretty much does what a player who got paid to sit on the bench would be doing, picking up his pay cheque and doing little. He should have more ambition and challenge the board, he won't of course as he's all for this money 1st approach, he's a bottler these days no doubt about it in my mind.
Top players won't come don't worry, IMO that's a sad thing for us as we're gonna be stuck where we are for a long time, the signing of Bergkamp heralded a great new era for us, that doesn't look like it will ever happen again for a long time.
Last edited by Özim; 28-05-2012 at 08:46 PM.
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