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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Vela View Post
    And we won't really know if it's worked until March 2012, annoying.
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    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coney View Post
    Yeah - his body language made it clear he was hurting. I think he knows the experiment - which would have been fantastic had it worked - has failed and that he needs to change the approach. As the collapse began again this season, he was clearly dismayed that it had still not worked. With that and Kroenke coming on board, I think the direction is going to change but we will know for sure very soon now.
    What's frustrating is it's so nearly worked. He's built a great squad doing things the 'right way', a squad which IMO is good enough to win the league. Simple things like a lack of organisation at the back, a mental weakness and a lack of a good captain have cost us but player for player we're as good as anyone IMO.

    But there was a difference in this collapse. It was worse than others and Wenger looked far more pissed off by it all. I'm hoping he channels that into action this summer.

    End of the day he's our manager, we might as well get behind him. If he does nothing this summer and we see the same weaknesses AGAIN then the crowd will seriously turn against him next season as they started to at the tail end of the previous one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
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    Well, I guess if we win every game we might wrap the title up that early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darth vela View Post
    well, i guess if we win every game we might wrap the title up that early.
    it's on!!!
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    Sounds good to me.
    if wenger was to go now, we'd be fucked for next season, wouldnt win a thing, wouldnt qualify for europa league imo. it would throw us into chaos but then thats great for you cos you can moan that board didnt make the right choice

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    if wenger was to go now, we'd be fucked for next season, wouldnt win a thing, wouldnt qualify for europa league imo. it would throw us into chaos but then thats great for you cos you can moan that board didnt make the right choice
    It might do all that.

    Or it might make us better, take us to the title and the CL and the 2 mickey mouse cups making us the first team ever to win the quadruple.

    I can be just as ridiculous you see

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ach View Post
    It might do all that.

    Or it might make us better, take us to the title and the CL and the 2 mickey mouse cups making us the first team ever to win the quadruple.

    I can be just as ridiculous you see

    answer me this, a lot of players are here because of wenger. if he goes, nasri will be off, cesc will be off and i think others would be too. pre season starts next week, we wouldnt have a new manager in in time, i reckon it would take about 3-4 weeks to get one in. almost start of season. giving not much time in transfer market and deals taht are supposedly being done now, (cahill samba etc) would be compromised without a manager or wenger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    answer me this, a lot of players are here because of wenger. if he goes, nasri will be off, cesc will be off and i think others would be too. pre season starts next week, we wouldnt have a new manager in in time, i reckon it would take about 3-4 weeks to get one in. almost start of season. giving not much time in transfer market and deals taht are supposedly being done now, (cahill samba etc) would be compromised without a manager or wenger.
    I dont see a question

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    The fact that a lot of the players have a primary loyalty to Wenger shouldn't discount us sacking him. Anyway, these same players have contributed to our stagnation over the last 6 years, so why should we overtly worry about them leaving? Moreover, just because there is a risk that we'll drop out of the top 4 if Wenger leaves shouldn't be a reason not to sack him. That sort of conservativism will see us continue to stagnate as a club, managed by a man who is short of ideas, content to follow the same failed philosophies over and over again, hoping it'll eventually work out, even though other teams have figured us out completely.

    If there is some short term pain with Wenger' departure, I say it's worth it IF it allows us to rebuild, develop a new footballing identity, get players who are commited to the club and have a strong mentality to succeed, and therefore allow us the opportunity to break out of this cycle of stagnation that we're currently stuck in.

    We cannot achieve that if we follow Wenger on his destructive course, where he's continuing to perservere with his failed dogma, because like all ideologues, he cannot accept that his way of thinking has proven to be mistaken.

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    When you consider Nasri and Cesc already want to leave whilst Wenger is in charge, what difference does it make if they leave if Wenger goes?

    If anything, a new manager might come in and tell these 2 that he will spend to get some quality players in, something which Wenger cant do to save his life.

    Cesc is gone. We all know that. Hes a cunt and Barca are a team of cunts so hes going back to be with fellow cunts. I think nasri however can be persuaded to stay but not by Wenger.

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