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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Bendtner View Post
    Press conference just finished.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18440514

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    Quote Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon View Post
    this could be a stroke of genius or a disaster. for all he's worth and how much i hate that melted faced ****, he is a great man manager and what he's done at that club has been exceptional. to take them from relegation to top 4 and into the champions league (albeit not this year thanks to a fluke chelsea win) is quite admirable on their behalf. however, i can also see where levy is coming from; redknapp constantly said he would leave spurs if a bigger job like england came along, so there's nothing stopping him from leaving if a bigger team makes him an offer in the future. he isn't exactly the most loyal person and seems to be a money grabbing ****, so why take the risk and give him a new bumper contract, as well as autonomy over transfers, if he's going to leave in less than 24 months for a bigger job? you might as well get rid now, save the hassle and get in adequate replacement, someone who has long term vision. levy is no idiot but at the same time they've bitten the hand thats fed them. with some better players in the team harry really could have helped them push on next season and get into the top 3, but equally, if they bring in a top quality manager they will still be on the upwards rise.

    the real problem lies in the demographics of the dressing room; many players are ageing, many are rumoured to be wanting champions league football so we can only assume they will be leaving. players are reported to be unhappy with redknapps sacking so i can only pray bale, modric, vaart all leave and vertonghen doesnt sign. spurs are also fucked in terms of backroom staff because they have people like les ferdinand, clive allen and tim sherwood in there, who without being too disrespectful have fuck all tactical knowledge and are just harry's mates. they need to shift the existing management as well as rebuild an ageing team, which will be very costly as a new manager will bring in his own staff. i sincerely hope they bring in someone like martinez because the only way they will be going is down. my fear is they will go for a step up, someone with european success, which may make them more of a threat next season.
    Sounds like building a stadium is their long term goal.

    From what you've written it exposes Redknapp for what he is, a very limited manager who simulates success with short term, cash draining methods. Buy them cheap, do them up and milk the fleeting glory (or one trophy in your whole career to be precise). Do a runner when the house starts falling down. If Redknapp's 100% record is maintained then spurs are in for a tough few years ahead, picking up the pieces. And if the owner is more focused on the commercial side (in fairness to him and unlike out shitheads) to get his cash back in the long term then they could be mid-table for half a decade. Sad thing is people will equate a downturn to losing Redknapp rather than seeing it as yet another Arry hit and run operation. What was his plan if he had stayed? Chuck even more cash at it I suppose with backhanders built in. He had his chance and he blew it. In terms of the England job and now the job at spurs it looks like his dodgy dealings may have finally caught up with him too. It's a classic case of a toerag living it large until his luck runs out. He's far better suited to the lower levels of the game where he can claim success by finishing 4th bottom and avoiding the drop (or at least getting out before the drop hits). He's a media product, a myth, even the knobends at the FA could see it when they gave the job to boring Woy instead. At least Woy will treat the job with a bit of respect. Arry never would have, it would all have been about Arry as usual.
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    "All you can do is leave the club in a better shape than you found it..."

    LOL - well that would be a first Arry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    "All you can do is leave the club in a better shape than you found it..."

    LOL - well that would be a first Arry.
    But he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post



    Spurs Fan: "Where are you burying Harry?"

    SPURS PITCH RENEWAL CONTINUES: The pitch has now had all of its soil and sand base replaced and levelled out with laser guided machinery. Now a reinforced plastic mesh is being laid out (you can see one strip by the goal) to strengthen the grass when its is laid.
    This would be like the mesh that we did at the Emirates which is why the pitch does not cut up? I suppose you have to try and copy your superiors.

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    Maybe the thread should be titled "Old 'arry's Game" ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Sounds like building a stadium is their long term goal.

    From what you've written it exposes Redknapp for what he is, a very limited manager who simulates success with short term, cash draining methods. Buy them cheap, do them up and milk the fleeting glory (or one trophy in your whole career to be precise). Do a runner when the house starts falling down. If Redknapp's 100% record is maintained then spurs are in for a tough few years ahead, picking up the pieces. And if the owner is more focused on the commercial side (in fairness to him and unlike out shitheads) to get his cash back in the long term then they could be mid-table for half a decade. Sad thing is people will equate a downturn to losing Redknapp rather than seeing it as yet another Arry hit and run operation. What was his plan if he had stayed? Chuck even more cash at it I suppose with backhanders built in. He had his chance and he blew it. In terms of the England job and now the job at spurs it looks like his dodgy dealings may have finally caught up with him too. It's a classic case of a toerag living it large until his luck runs out. He's far better suited to the lower levels of the game where he can claim success by finishing 4th bottom and avoiding the drop (or at least getting out before the drop hits). He's a media product, a myth, even the knobends at the FA could see it when they gave the job to boring Woy instead. At least Woy will treat the job with a bit of respect. Arry never would have, it would all have been about Arry as usual.
    building a stadium is definently one of many long term goals they have, they've been going on about it for years. whether they can successfully integrate a stadium with on field success (which for them is champions league football) is another entirety in itself. as already mentioned, he is a short term manager who wants short term success; he brings in experienced players to do the job but he's so damn effective at it that it glosses over the cracks. coupled with the fact that the media love him, it bides him more time and sympathy when it does eventually go tits up. however that doesnt necessarily make him a bad manager because he's meeting the club criteria; he was told to get spurs into europe and he did, and the danger now with sacking redknapp is that other managers wont want the job. after all, they finished 4th twice in the past 3 seasons; if a manager who met the criteria still got sacked, why would anyone go there? there's too much pressure to perform with a hounding board breathing down your kneck constantly. dont forget levy has a track record of backstabbing managers (jol vs ramos) and isn't quite the honest human being he tries to portray himself as.

    i think their ideal candidate would have been rodgers as he plays the expansive style of football the fans desire, but now he's gone to liverpool they're stuck with people like moyes or martinez. in terms of whether either are an upgrade on redknapp then personally i'd say no; for everything moyes has achieved at everton i think harry could probably have done the same and even got them to more cup finals, and as for martinez, well i dont really rate martinez highly enough as people already know.

    the whole situation really was a case of catch 22 for levy; do they keep redknapp and go for short term success or should they get rid and bring in a new manager with long term vision? someone who catalyses their brand alongside a new stadium, and at the same time, builds a foundation for future success. it depends on what they want i guess and what they value most; short term stability or long term stability? in the short term, hanging onto redknapp was definetly the better option as i dont think many others could have done a better job, but in the long term i think they've made the right decision if they get the right manager in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon View Post
    to take them from relegation to top 4 and into the champions league (albeit not this year thanks to a fluke chelsea win) is quite admirable.
    He didn't. He took a good squad which was capable of top 6 but not playing for the manager and made them a side that could challenge for top 4. He did pretty well but nothing exceptional. And he cocked up a 10 point lead the season just gone.

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    They'll probably get Moyes in and try to do a Wenger, keep the success going on the pitch without spending money which they'll instead divert to the stadium and commercial projects. Can Moyes do a Wenger? Maybe, but certainly not with the same amount of style and WUMery. When you see this shit exploding in spudland you have to admit there's a fair degree of stability at our club. It looked dicey at the start of last season but Wenger still pulled through in the end. For all his flaws he's done a job that somebody like Redknapp could only dream of. Arry is a minor league hack by comparison.
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