Good Bye RVP!

[Japan Shaking All Over]

.........hhhmmmmmmm forget it

[Boss]

Derksen blamed the side's failure on the excessive number of egos present in the dressing room, namely Gregory Van der Wiel, Ibrahim Afellay and Robin van Persie, and implied that problems with mentality and structure were rife in the Dutch camp.

"[Gregory Van der Wiel] was working on everything except football," he told Voetbal International. "He has his own clothing line and was working too long on it.

"Plus he was working on hip hop music and was getting his hair done every day. Players hardly saw him without headphones on. He wasn't listening to music only during matches and training.

"From day one [Robin van Persie and Ibrahim Afellay] were not part of the group. Afellay is hated in the Dutch camp. He came across as 'I play for Barcelona, who do you play for?'

"He was very arrogant. When it was someone's birthday, and everybody had to pay for a gift, he wouldn't even chip in €10.

"Van Persie was behaving in the same way. Van Persie and Afellay were together for the whole tournament. Also, everyone was disturbed by Van Persie not talking to the press [referring to the gagging order placed on the 28-year-old by his club, Arsenal, amid doubts over his future]."

However, he had kinder words to say for Wesley Sneijder, whom he believes was the only player trying to foster any sort of team spirit: "He wanted to take the lead, and wanted to get the team on their feet."

Netherlands will compete with Turkey, Hungary, Romania, Estonia and Andorra in qualifying for the 2014 World Cup, which begins in September.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/2898/eur...-behaviour-in?

[Power n Glory]

Nothing to do with the shit defence and poor tactical set up
then?

[Cripps_orig]

Typical Bar**** **** Afellay is

RVP can fuck off as well

Sneijder

[Marc Overmars]

RVP

Billy big bollocks.

[Fist of Lehmann]

Better that than the rest of the Dutch side which was largely Billy van der No Bollocx.

[Özim]

Afellay doesn't really play for Barca though does he, he largely sits on the bench or is left out of the squad. Wasn't impressed with him.

Schneijder was superb though.

[Niall_Quinn]

http://www.goal.com/en/news/2898/eur...-behaviour-in?

So RvP kept to himself and stuck to his agreement not to talk to the press? What a ****!

How did him not talking to the press affect the Dutch results? I can see why having a shit manager and shit tactics, shit defenders and greedy bastards like Robben might have an effect but the press thing is hard to figure out. If RvP has broken his deal with Arsenal and spoke to the press, does that mean the Dutch would be in the QF now? Seems far fetched.

[Marc Overmars]

RVP has shown his true colours here. We need to get rid before he starts to affect our team.

[Özim]

So RvP kept to himself and stuck to his agreement not to talk to the press? What a ****!

How did him not talking to the press affect the Dutch results? I can see why having a shit manager and shit tactics, shit defenders and greedy bastards like Robben might have an effect but the press thing is hard to figure out. If RvP has broken his deal with Arsenal and spoke to the press, does that mean the Dutch would be in the QF now? Seems far fetched.

You might want to re-read this bit as well:

From day one [Robin van Persie and Ibrahim Afellay] were not part of the group. Afellay is hated in the Dutch camp. He came across as 'I play for Barcelona, who do you play for?'

"He was very arrogant. When it was someone's birthday, and everybody had to pay for a gift, he wouldn't even chip in €10.

"Van Persie was behaving in the same way.

Team spirit is important for a successful team and not integrating yourself with the rest of the squad is detrimental. Ask Wenger.